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    #181

    Dec 27, 2013, 08:52 PM
    I have a fair amt of 3 way bulbs in reserve . I'll go blind using CFLs . Eventually LEDs will replace them all ... because of consumer preference, not government mandates.
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    #182

    Dec 31, 2013, 03:29 PM
    I'll go blind using CFLs
    No Tom don't you know they become brighter, but if you want more light go to a higher rating. You are just cheapskating on the environment
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    #183

    Dec 31, 2013, 04:07 PM
    sorry there is potential for ultraviolet UV damage to the eyes .
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    #184

    Dec 31, 2013, 05:05 PM
    no more than ordinary flouro and they have been around for a long time, do what I do and wear UV tinted lenses. life is too short, you know, to be concerned about every little inconvenience. One day we will reverse all this greenie rubbish but in the mean time these lamps reduce the cost of operation
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    #185

    Dec 31, 2013, 05:53 PM
    LEDs are greener, brighter, last longer, and don't strobe like flouros. Households with migraine sufferers don't have to mess with the mercury hand grenades.
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    #186

    Dec 31, 2013, 06:54 PM
    Stole this from parttime in the Electrical Forum.

    What You Need to Know About the Lightbulb Law - Popular Mechanics
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    #187

    Jan 1, 2014, 03:21 AM
    I'm staying away from CFLs .I don't want to call in a hazmat team to clean up a broken bulb.
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    #188

    Jan 1, 2014, 05:09 AM
    Do they grow wimps over there or what?
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    #189

    Jan 2, 2014, 07:16 PM
    I've been underwelmed by the LED lights I've seen and tried so far... that is likely to change in time, but right now they suck In my opinion. I do have CFL's in my house and have since they came out... meaning more than 17 years... because I like bright lights and it cuts my electric bill down.

    The CFL's don't bother my eyes...
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    #190

    Jan 3, 2014, 12:33 AM
    Don't worry smoothy next he will tell you they enduce skin cancer, I spent most of my life under flouros and now I have a nice batch of kerotisis. can't say if it is flouro's or the relentless sunshine in these climes
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    #191

    Jan 3, 2014, 06:07 AM
    I can believe they do bother some people... as they do flicker (if you've done video work you would know that very well) and some people are more sensitive to that than others. I do also know that certain eye conditions can be agrivated by bright fluorescent lights. They don't bother me but they do my wife somewhat.

    If you spend a lot of time outdoors in a dry climate where you have a LOT of sun... I'd say that's the larger issue of the two. Some people in the American South West tend to have similar isses.
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    #192

    Jan 3, 2014, 09:03 AM
    The progressive narrative is that energy-saving bulbs are better. Therefore the others bulbs should be illegal... as if energy saving is the only consideration when people decide which light bulb to use. Instead of leaving the choice to the consumer ,they know what's best for us and top down decide for us which bulbs can be sold on the market . To them it's not so much as a choice,but who gets to decide . Here is a quick guide to their thinking . 'Everything I don't like must be banned . Everything I do like is a human right. '
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    #193

    Jan 3, 2014, 09:17 AM
    You have two years or so to hoard the inefficient light bulbs you love so much before the old technology is phased out. Don't complain about your energy costs until then either. I am surprised you aren't making your own candles Tom, or have a horse in the barn to get you to work. You like horses don't you?
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    #194

    Jan 3, 2014, 09:21 AM
    yeah and whale oil too. You don't see too many of them around do you ? Wanna know why ? hint .it had nothing to do with a ban on whale oil lamps .The people decided in the free market that electric light was better . If your CFLs were so great then they could compete and dominate the market on their own and a gvt ban wouldn't be required .
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    #195

    Jan 3, 2014, 09:51 AM
    The free market would let us drink coca cola with cocaine in it. Stop worrying and go buy as many bulbs as you can. Home depot still has them in abundance. How many do you need for a lifetime? I'll send you mine.
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    #196

    Jan 3, 2014, 10:03 AM
    nope that horse is already out of the barn .My preference was 100W . Those are already gone.
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    #197

    Jan 3, 2014, 02:51 PM
    I guess things are a little dim in you house Tom, for all sorts of reasons. Have you heard of light tubes they are very effective in bringing light into a darkened space

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