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Dec 1, 2009, 11:37 AM
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Are you an eco-criminal ?
You may be . The New Scientist describes 5 crimes most of us routinely commit.
1. Drinking coffee.
The average cup of black filter coffee is still responsible for 125 grams of CO2 emissions.
2.Use toilet paper .If you are an average American your wipe wastes 23 toilet paper rolls each year.
3.Buy new clothes instead of dumpster diving for them.Most of us dispose of clothing before they become thread bare.
4.Washed your dirty clothes. What ? Don't you have a dirty creek and a rock to beat your clothing on ?
5.You throw away food you don't eat. I've never been accuses of leaving food on my plate so I can plead not guilty on that at least.
Five eco-crimes we commit every day - environment - 01 December 2009 - New Scientist
So who is an eco-friendly person ? One could argue that the most eco-friendly people in the United States are the homeless. This is especially true if you are residing in recycled corrigation.
And NYC is determined to keep them eco-friendly... and healthy .The hunger pangs don't matter . The transfats content do.
Metro - Hungry, sure, but food is healthier
Soon we will all be living in our own private corrigated homes ;dumpsterdiving for our clothing and standing on line for our transfat free handouts.
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Dec 1, 2009, 11:46 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
1. Drinking coffee.
Nope.
2.Use toilet paper .If you are an average American your wipe wastes 23 toilet paper rolls each year.
When I used my hands I found eating a little icky...
3.Buy new clothes instead of dumpster diving for them.Most of us dispose of clothing before they become thread bare.
Yeah I have some shirts that have holes and I just can't get rid of them.
4.Washed your dirty clothes. What ? Don't you have a dirty creek and a rock to beat your clothing on ?
Sometimes I go weeks without doing my laundry, and if I'm lazy I get clothes from the hamper and wear them.
:D
5.You throw away food you don't eat. I've never been accuses of leaving food on my plate so I can plead not guilty on that at least.
Guilty. I went to a restaurant named Smitty's [the "m" should really be changed to "h"]-- the food was so gross I refused to eat it.
I'm pretty guilty of "wasting" food.
So basically I am an eco-criminal.
Am I going to change? Nah
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Dec 1, 2009, 11:57 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
1. Drinking coffee.
Absolutely, we brew Starbucks, usually an Indonesian roast or blend... none of that fair trade stuff.
2.Use toilet paper .If you are an average American your wipe wastes 23 toilet paper rolls each year.
2 ply
3.Buy new clothes instead of dumpster diving for them.Most of us dispose of clothing before they become thread bare.
Not a huge clothing shopper but can't say the same for my wife. The homeless and otherwise needy generally get them long before they're usefulness is gone. I do however wear my Dallas Cowboys shirts until they're threadbare. Even buried my dog in one so they're both adding nutrients to the soil.
4.Washed your dirty clothes. What ? Don't you have a dirty creek and a rock to beat your clothing on ?
I have plenty of rocks, and a Maytag.
5.You throw away food you don't eat.
Rarely is my plate not cleaned, but the leftovers don't always get used. The dogs do get most of the leftover meat and veggies they can have added to their dinners. Of course then they go emit their own greenhouse gases.
Soon we will all be living in our own private corrigated homes ;dumpsterdiving for our clothing and standing on line for our transfat free handouts.
Ah, Utopia...
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Dec 1, 2009, 12:09 PM
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Of course then they go emit their own greenhouse gases.
If your dogs are the same as mine then it can be said their greenhouse gasses are toxic.
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Dec 1, 2009, 12:10 PM
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I read that article and I don't drink Coffee but are there really people who drink 6 cups of coffee everyday?? They must be bouncing off the walls.
Speech I am so mad at myself for not starting Bo Scafie I would have beat you if I did!! Congrats!
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Dec 1, 2009, 12:42 PM
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Colston had a good game last night .
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Dec 1, 2009, 12:49 PM
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I was thinking last night I want the Saints to win. But I don't want Colston or Shockey to have a good game. Shockey didn't do that great but Colston had I think 23 points.
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Dec 1, 2009, 01:13 PM
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Yes but not the drip filter kind so eco-friendly on that one
Yes, I find there are various kinds of pollution and I prefer not to have diarrhea
3.Buy new clothes instead of dumpster diving for them.
I've been reviewing my wardrobe lately, time to consign most of it to the charity store and buy some new clothes
4.Washed your dirty clothes.
No I just can't afford a house with a crik, but I only wash them once a week, does that qualify?
5.You throw away food you don't eat.
Yes, I find I just can't get through that lettuce in a week and bananas ripen so quickly, can't stand a mushy banana, what else can youdo with food you don't eat?
So who is an eco-friendly person?
I'm very friendly I plant shrubs and trees and even talk to them, I find them very friendly and more intelligent than most ecologists. I drive a four cylinder car, 2.2L of course, I think that's eco-friendly enough, all things considered, Since I only have to fill the tank once every three weeks. Even had a solar hot water system until it corroded out. I've done the weekend chopping wood thing and I have decided that denuding the woods of firewood isn't very eco-friendly and besides who wants to get rid of the ashes. I have also decided that composting unused food isn't eco-friendly and think that it belongs at the tip where they produce methane gas to generate green electricity, those flouro lights are a bit dim though and I wonder why I have keratosis
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Dec 1, 2009, 01:46 PM
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 Originally Posted by spitvenom
I read that article and I don't drink Coffee but are there really people who drink 6 cups of coffee everyday?? They must be bouncing off the walls.
Six cups barely gets my wife started.
Speech I am so mad at myself for not starting Bo Scafie I would have beat you if I did!! Congrats!
Thanks, I got lucky my team didn't suck more, I left 100 points on the bench. I was watching the game last night with 2 Saints receivers on my team while Brees tossed TD's to every player but them. Then Colston came through :)
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Dec 1, 2009, 01:48 PM
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Yeah I saw TO sitting on your bench. I played someone in a different league last week with TO on their bench. He would have beaten me by 1 point if he started TO.
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Dec 1, 2009, 01:51 PM
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 Originally Posted by spitvenom
I was thinking last night I want the Saints to win. But I don't want Colston or Shockey to have a good game. Shockey didn't do that great but Colston had I think 23 points.
At the half they had 3 points between them, about as much as the rest of my receivers and RB's had, lol. Regardless, I enjoyed watching Hoodie get spanked. I wonder if he wears his hoodies until they're threadbare?
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Dec 1, 2009, 02:06 PM
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I think he does wear them to they are threadbare!!
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Dec 1, 2009, 03:32 PM
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Whoever came up with that list is an eco-idiot.
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Dec 1, 2009, 04:04 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
You may be . The New Scientist describes 5 crimes most of us routinely commit.
1. Drinking coffee.
Absolutely, 2-3 per day.
2.Use toilet paper .If you are an average American your wipe wastes 23 toilet paper rolls each year.
I'd rather be a criminal than gross and funky :eek:
3.Buy new clothes instead of dumpster diving for them.Most of us dispose of clothing before they become thread bare
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Points here, I have clothes older than my children, and I'm not above buying good second hand clothing. Unfortunantly as the years go buy my waist has not exactly stayed the same size ;)
4.Washed your dirty clothes. What ? Don't you have a dirty creek and a rock to beat your clothing on ?
If I'm going to wear old clothes, at least they should be clean. I have one of those high efficiency front loaders - saves water and electricity.
5.You throw away food you don't eat. I've never been accuses of leaving food on my plate so I can plead not guilty on that at least.
I only get enough that I can eat. And I'll finish what the kids don't eat and I'll reheat leftovers.
Soon we will all be living in our own private corrigated homes ;dumpsterdiving for our clothing and standing on line for our transfat free handouts.
So if everyone is eco friendly who will fill up the dumpsters to dive in?
[ I've reduced the space here, at the request of NK, so I waste less space :p ] G&P
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Dec 1, 2009, 04:35 PM
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OK lets see.. I drive 35 miles each way to work in my Outback (about 25 mpg) and pick up a decaf on on the way (in one of those styrofoam cups ) .
I tried one of those bidet thingys and all it did was get my pants wet. Paper or sycamore leaves are the way to go.
I wear my clothes until they are thread bare or hopelessly stained. But my wife is good at giving hers away to charity.
Does itr count that my employer's laundry service cleans most of my clothing ? Probably not .I bet the industrial cleaning process isn't very eco-friendly.
When it comes to food I call myself eco-friendly . My plate is clean... we make leftovers last and any veggie based waste goes into our back yard composter . Why should I deny the black bear his share ? When he's foraging through my composter it saves us the effort of turning it.
I run the dishwasher which I believe is more eco-friendly than using gallons of water and a bottle of biodegradable dish soap.
I pride myself in having 3 recycle bins of papers plastics etc a week and only a single can of refuse picked up.(empty beer and wine bottles take up much more space than wet trash. )
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Dec 1, 2009, 05:11 PM
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Hello tom:
I am NOT a crook! I don't commit ANY of those crimes. I do, however, produce about a pound and a half of methane daily.
excon
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Dec 1, 2009, 05:20 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
So who is an eco-friendly person ? One could argue that the most eco-friendly people in the United States are the homeless. This is especially true if you are residing in recycled corrigation.
And NYC is determined to keep them eco-friendly.....and healthy .The hunger pangs don't matter . The transfats content do.
Metro - Hungry, sure, but food is healthier
Soon we will all be living in our own private corrigated homes ;dumpsterdiving for our clothing and standing on line for our transfat free handouts.
yes, I am more eco-friendly than you guys. Finally a good point to being homeless.
someone should tell the government that fat is a GOOD thing when you're homeless. The extra padding helps keep you warm in cold weather, and you can live off the reserves if you have to go a ways between meals.
I have eaten more junk food since I became homeless than I did in the 2-3 years prior. Every free meal comes with a donut, or cake, or pudding, and there's usually some for you to take with you.
while I did not dumpster-dive for my clothing, it is all pre-owned (except the socks and underwear). Clothes closets and thrift stores are an amazing thing. Although, in an effort to be more eco-friendly I probably SHOULD consider going through trash in an effort to find that shirt I need to go with that skirt ^_^
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Dec 1, 2009, 05:40 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
1. Drinking coffee.
At least 6 cups during my 7th night shift in a row.
 Originally Posted by tomder55
2.Use toilet paper .If you are an average American your wipe wastes 23 toilet paper rolls each year.
If only I had a buhday.
 Originally Posted by tomder55
3.Buy new clothes instead of dumpster diving for them.Most of us dispose of clothing before they become thread bare.
I don't dumpster dive, but I don't buy clothes until I absolutely need them. Heck I still have a pair of jeans from the early 90s I wear.
 Originally Posted by tomder55
4.Washed your dirty clothes. What ? Don't you have a dirty creek and a rock to beat your clothing on ?
Who want's a stinky nurse? There's already enough funk going on in the labor and delivery rooms, I don't need to add to it.
 Originally Posted by tomder55
5.You throw away food you don't eat.
I save that for my ailing dog so that she can have some of the best last meals she has ever had before she meets the alpha dog in the sky.
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Dec 1, 2009, 06:12 PM
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1. Drinking coffee.
I drink the entire pot. But I only use one measuring spoon per pot (8 cups water). A can of coffee lasts me forever. So it's dishwater. Who cares?
2.Use toilet paper .If you are an average American your wipe wastes 23 toilet paper rolls each year.
23 rolls a year? Just who are they talking about? Men? Men I can see, but a woman? Ha! Not in this lifetime. More like 10 rolls a month minimum for a woman.
3.Buy new clothes instead of dumpster diving for them.Most of us dispose of clothing before they become thread bare.
I buy my clothes at thrift stores if I can. Have a collection of sweaters that I change out every 2 years or so giving the worn ones back to the thrift store. I seldom buy any clothes new from a department store as prices are too high.
4.Washed your dirty clothes. What ? Don't you have a dirty creek and a rock to beat your clothing on ?
I do wash in cold water only and if weather permits hang out to dry outside.
5.You throw away food you don't eat.
Any old, moldy or outdated food goes directly to my raccoons or possums that visit my back porch. They make short work of any kind of food I have. Haven't thrown out anything other than banana peels. They make short work of all of the food in their bowls.
I also keep my home at 60 degrees in the winter time regardless of how cold it is outside. I just pile on more sweaters and wear a hat inside. I'm toasty warm. I don't keep my home cooled off in the summer either with the a/c. I keep it at 78 in the summer. I wear shorts and sleeveless shirts.
I also don't use my stovetop or oven any more. I use plug in appliances that heat up my food quite nicely. Last month my electric bill was the lowest it's been in years since I stopped using the stovetop and stove to cook food. Should have done that years ago. No, I do not own a microwave either.
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Dec 1, 2009, 06:41 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello tom:
I am NOT a crook! I don't commit ANY of those crimes. I do, however, produce about a pound and a half of methane daily.
So you ARE ruining the planet. :D
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