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    #42

    Sep 14, 2024, 09:52 AM
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    Speaking of weird, Jerry Nadler couldn't be bothered to stay awake and listen during testimony from the family members of the victims of violent crimes from illegal immigrants. Hopefully they can get these illegals registered to vote and on welfare before they prosecute them for murder.

    It's bad to look at things this way, but should be a campaign ad for Trump. Get these family members together and let them tell everyone how wonderful the Biden/Harris admin is.
    I'm surprised tRump isn't dissing non-whites! He hates them. Actually, he hates everybody unless a somebody can line his pockets -- or kiss his fat butt.
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    Sep 14, 2024, 10:28 AM
    I'm surprised tRump isn't dissing non-whites! He hates them. Actually, he hates everybody unless a somebody can line his pockets -- or kiss his fat butt.
    If it's wrong for Trump to hate people, why is it OK for you to hate him? Do you not feel compelled to follow your own moral value which you wish to use to judge Trump?
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    Sep 14, 2024, 06:20 PM
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    If it's wrong for Trump to hate people, why is it OK for you to hate him? Do you not feel compelled to follow your own moral value which you wish to use to judge Trump?
    I don't hate him. I feel sorry for him and his family. I know all too well the signs of dementia.

    Now, please take off your blinders and look at the dates of those polls. May and June. Uh huh.
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    Sep 15, 2024, 06:07 AM
    I don't hate him.
    That's what most hateful people say. Well, you can't use hateful words and then claim not to hate. Hate speaks the way you speak. "Actually, he hates everybody unless a somebody can line his pockets -- or kiss his fat butt." Sorry, but it's pretty hard to get "I feel sorry for him" from those words.

    I think the lady needs to get honest with herself.

    Good links, Tom. This one said it plainly. "Mr. Trump’s tallies today — 14 percent support among Black voters and 41 percent among Hispanic voters — would still represent the highest level of backing a Republican presidential candidate has received in pre-election polls since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act in 1964."

    It's sad that black Americans, having escaped from antebellum slavery, have now voluntarily become so servile to the democrats. Perhaps they should begin to ask what that has gotten for them.
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    Sep 15, 2024, 05:47 PM
    You never posted anything nice and unhateful about Biden or Harris or Walz. And you're not hateful?
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    Sep 15, 2024, 07:35 PM
    You never posted anything nice and unhateful about Biden or Harris or Walz
    Oh come on, WG. You get caught in your typical hateful comments about Trump, and try to justify it with a, "Oh yeah?? Well, you're hateful too, mister!!"

    My criticisms of Biden and Harris are limited to policies and the fact that Harris has yet to hold a press conference since the DNC and has held, as far as I am aware, ONE interview, and that with her buddy Dana Bash. Even then, she seemed so insecure that she insisted on having Walz there. I don't engage in name-calling or making hateful remarks like someone else I know. You know, comments such as, ",..unlike arrogant and egotistical and demented tRump."

    Now if you want to suggest that I DO engage in such comments, then it should be a simple matter for you to find a few. I will patently wait.
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    Sep 18, 2024, 04:23 AM
    Gwen Walz is weird

    Tim Walz CREEPY Wife Goes On INSANE Rant About TRUMP She’s A Complete PSYCHOPATH (youtube.com)

    Turning the page ;as if Clueless Joe-Kam the Sham have not been running the show for almost 4 years .

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    Sep 18, 2024, 04:48 AM
    Hard to know how to respond to that.
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    Sep 19, 2024, 08:33 AM
    well when AOC does it I call her All Out Crazy

    'I Am Ready To Fight!': AOC Gives Passionate Remarks On Behalf Of Jamaal Bowman At Bronx Rally (youtube.com)

    Gwen is a teacher . Now I admit some of my teachers were off the wall . But I always preferred a John Housman in 'Paper Chase ' type .

    The Paper Chase 1973 - The Socratic Method (youtube.com)
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    Sep 19, 2024, 10:14 AM
    We use half of the Socratic method on this site. We ask questions, then we wait for answers...and wait, and wait, and wait.
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    #54

    Sep 30, 2024, 08:47 AM
    First it was Tampon Tim calling for limits on the 1st amendment . Now JFKerry is calling for the same at the World Economic Forum.

    The dislike of and anguish over social media is just growing and growing. It is part of our problem, particularly in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any issue. It's really hard to govern today. You can't -- the referees we used to have to determine what is a fact and what isn't a fact have kind of been eviscerated, to a certain degree. And people go and self select where they go for their news, for their information. And then you get into a vicious cycle.

    So it is really hard, much harder to build consensus today than at any time in the 40-50 years I've been involved in this.

    You know there's a lot of discussion now about how you curb those entities in order to guarantee that you're going to have some accountability on facts, etc.

    But look, if people only go to one source, and the source they go to is sick, and, you know, has an agenda and they're putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as a major block to be able to just, you know, hammer it out of existence.

    So what we need is to win the ground, win the right to govern, by hopefully winning enough votes that you're free to be able to implement change.

    Obviously, there are some people in our country who are prepared to implement change in a whole other way, but --
    I think democracies are very challenged right now and have not proven they can move fast enough of big enough to deal with the challenges they are facing, and to me, that is part of what this election is all about. Will we break the fever in the United States?
    John Kerry Tells WEF: Our First Amendment Stands As A Major Block Against Hammering Disinformation Out Of Existence | Video | RealClearPolitics

    yeah you could say our constitutional rights stand against government controlled speech and thought.
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    Sep 30, 2024, 09:02 AM
    The dislike of and anguish over social media is just growing and growing. It is part of our problem, particularly in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any issue.
    In other words, it's becoming more difficult for the powers that be to tell everyone else what to think.

    It's really hard to govern today. You can't -- the referees we used to have to determine what is a fact and what isn't a fact have kind of been eviscerated, to a certain degree.
    Referees? What referees?

    And people go and self select where they go for their news, for their information. And then you get into a vicious cycle.
    I wonder if he realizes what an outlandish statement that is when he is critical of "people" going out and selecting their own news sources? Plainly, he wants to do the selecting for them. Should we have a government approved list of acceptable news sources? What if people choose to listen to an unapproved source, kind of like Germans who wanted to listen to the BBC in Nazi Germany?

    You know there's a lot of discussion now about how you curb those entities in order to guarantee that you're going to have some accountability on facts, etc.
    In other words, there is a lot of discussion on how to curb free speech, and how the governing class can hold the rest of us "accountable". Uhm...I think he has it backwards.
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    Sep 30, 2024, 01:24 PM
    Referees? What referees?
    What he means is the Slimes with " all the news fit to print " and Walter Cronkite telling us at the end of every broadcast "and that's the way it is " . They were the arbiters of truth .

    The rest you accurately translated his Big Brother Newspeak .
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    Sep 30, 2024, 10:10 PM
    Wherefore art thou, Wondergirl???
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    #58

    Oct 1, 2024, 04:11 AM
    Wonder if Walz will have to answer for his Chicom connection tonight in the debate ?

    The House Oversight Committee subpoenaed DHS yesterday following whistleblower allegations about an internal employee group chat discussing “serious concerns” about Walz’s China ties.


    Comer Subpoenas DHS After Whistleblower Reveals Information on Governor Walz’s Ties to the CCP - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability




    Earlier this month Comer was critical of the FBI for withholding information about Walz Chicom connection .

    Comer: FBI's Silence Regarding Governor Walz's Relationship with CCP-Affiliated Entities and Officials is Inexcusable - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability
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    Oct 1, 2024, 01:32 PM
    Interesting contradiction in the timeline. Walz has made a big deal over time that he was in China in June 1989 when the Tiananmen protests began .

    ““As a young man, I was just going to teach high school in Foshan in Guangdong, and was in Hong Kong in May of ’89,” he said. “And as the events were unfolding, several of us went in. And I still remember the train station in Hong Kong.”
    “The opportunity to be in a Chinese high school at that critical time seemed to me to be really important. And it was a very interesting summer to say the least. Because if you recall, as we moved in that summer and further on and the news blackouts and things that went on, you certainly can’t black out news from people if they want to get it,” he continued.
    But now old news accounts from that time prove he was NOT there.

    CNN calls him out .

    Walz’s claim that he was in Hong Kong during Tiananmen Square protests undercut by unearthed newspaper reports | CNN Politics


    Walz says the time line is not important .

    When asked by CNN if Walz was in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square protests, the Harris campaign was unable to provide evidence to substantiate Walz’s claim.

    A source close to Walz told CNN that “the point Gov. Walz is making when he discusses this is that some folks in the World Teach program discussed dropping out after Tiananmen Square, but he continued on with the program because he believed it was important for the Chinese people to learn about American democracy and American history.”The contradiction was first reported by Minnesota Public Radio News and APM Reports

    And he apparently exaggerated the number of trips he took to China

    Depending on the day it was around 30 times ;dozens and dozens of times ;or 15 . The timeline is further muddled because some of the years in the timeline he was in Congress. But there are no records of him travelling there as a Rep.
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    Oct 1, 2024, 06:28 PM
    It seems that dems are so confident that their loyal friends in the media will cover from them that they have very little concern for the truth.

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