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tomder55 · Mar 23, 2021, 02:21 PM

We have herd mentality ... oops, that's Trump's term. I meant herd immunity.

yes we do . We will let Quid get away with saying we can have small gatherings with the family when we get vaccinated while he lets hordes cross the border unscreened and even offers to relocate them across the fruited plains .

Wondergirl · Mar 23, 2021, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

yes we do . We will let Quid get away with saying we can have small gatherings with the family when we get vaccinated while he lets hordes cross the border unscreened and even offers to relocate them across the fruited plains .

And they too will be vaccinated.

jlisenbe · Mar 23, 2021, 02:50 PM

And they too will be vaccinated.

How do you know that?

Athos · Mar 23, 2021, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Biden appears to have some momentum on covid vaccinations and he has stood up on gun control

Gun control will go nowhere as long as the Republicans have any say. After one tragedy after another, they will whine and lament and do nothing.

tomder55 · Mar 23, 2021, 03:57 PM

there are close to 400 million guns in the US . Good luck with any banning efforts .

jlisenbe · Mar 23, 2021, 04:07 PM

Amazing how there are no calls for gun control when, in Chicago for instance, there are hundreds of people gunned down every year. I guess if you are merely an inner city victim, then you get no sympathy. Might add that Chicago is well known for gun control and well known for gun murders.

Athos · Mar 23, 2021, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

there are close to 400 million guns in the US . Good luck with any banning efforts .

Whew! That's a lot of firepower. Anyway, nobody is banning guns. It's about registering guns and making them harder to obtain. Yes, I know the bad guys will still get guns, but some of these crazy shooters had too easy access to guns.

Let's face it - gun control is not about the 2nd Amendment. It's about a segment of the population that thinks they'll be needed to fight the government. It's that twisted view of the country that sees itself as "rugged individualists" - Marlboro Man. As if guns could stand up against a modern military.

These are the insurrectionists of recent infamy. Wackos. The kids are worse because they break our hearts when they act out.

Australia has managed to have gun control with success. The country didn't implode and didn't see an unstoppable crime wave. We should examine what they did.

tomder55 · Mar 23, 2021, 04:36 PM

Anyway, nobody is banning guns. It's about registering guns and making them harder to obtain. Yes, I know the bad guys will still get guns, but some of these crazy shooters had too easy access to guns.

The laws are generally in place. Enforce them .

In this case the Colorado judge refused Boulder the ability to ban the gun that was used by the shooter . As a conservative I think that local authorities know better on issues of regulations.

Judge rules Colorado cities unable to enact gun restrictions (koaa.com)

and yes Quid and Congress wants to make it an issue of banning .
Biden urges Congress to pass assault weapon ban | TheHill

Wondergirl · Mar 23, 2021, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Quid and Congress wants to make it an issue of banning .
Biden urges Congress to pass assault weapon ban | TheHill

Why does this country need assault weapons to be available to the hoi polloi?

jlisenbe · Mar 23, 2021, 04:50 PM

Why does this country need assault weapons to be available to the hoi polloi?

1. What do you think an "assault weapon" is?
2. What percentage of gun murders are committed with assault weapons?

paraclete · Mar 23, 2021, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Athos

Gun control will go nowhere as long as the Republicans have any say. After one tragedy after another, they will whine and lament and do nothing.

The pelicans will be outvoted in the Senate, so I expect a filibuster saying absolutely nothing

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

1. What do you think an "assault weapon" is?
2. What percentage of gun murders are committed with assault weapons?

probably only a small percentage however they can be banned without affecting many, It is all about perception, you know this

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Why does this country need assault weapons to be available to the hoi polloi?

It makes the hoi polloi feel safe in their otherwise unprotected homes

Athos · Mar 23, 2021, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

and yes Quid and Congress wants to make it an issue of banning .
Biden urges Congress to pass assault weapon ban | TheHill

Ok I thought you meant all guns. But assault weapons should be banned - who the hell needs them? So should tanks and aircraft carriers be banned from civilian use. Register the rifles and hand guns.

jlisenbe · Mar 23, 2021, 05:02 PM

Gun murders have been plummeting for the past three decades, so perhaps a knee-jerk reaction is not called for. Perhaps we should ask why a very small group of people do such things.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countrie...-homicide-rate

Wondergirl · Mar 23, 2021, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

It makes the hoi polloi feel safe in their otherwise unprotected homes

ASSAULT weapons??? Why not a Mauser or a .22?

jlisenbe · Mar 23, 2021, 05:09 PM

ASSAULT weapons??? Why not a Mauser or a .22?

Because a 22 is not designed to stop a person. Meanwhile, a Mauser is a great deal more powerful than the .223 caliber used by most so called assault weapons.

Again, what do you think an assault weapon is? What percentage of gun murders do they account for?

paraclete · Mar 23, 2021, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

ASSAULT weapons??? Why not a Mauser or a .22?

Yes they should ban baseball bats too

Wondergirl · Mar 23, 2021, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

Yes they should ban baseball bats too

Only once we're in heaven....

tomder55 · Mar 23, 2021, 05:26 PM

who the hell needs them?

ask thousands of legitimate hunters in the US and they will tell you .If someone calls an AR-15 design rifle an “assault weapon,” then they’ve been duped by an agenda. They may look like military rifles . But they are not .AR-15-style rifles are no more powerful than other hunting rifles of the same caliber .
Mandatory FBI background check are required for all retail firearm purchases Should the back round check be extended ? Maybe .
Quid's rant has a lot of problems
First it is unconstitutional .That pesky 2nd amendment ... recently confirmed by SCOTUS in the Heller decision . The 2nd Amendment protects ALL arms that are commonly used by law abiding citizens. Trust me ,the AR is probably the most popular sporting gun on the market .Only 3% of gun crimes were criminals using the AR . By far pistols are the weapon of choice for criminals. And yes they get the guns without passing the back round checks.

Athos · Mar 23, 2021, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

ask thousands of legitimate hunters in the US and they will tell you .If someone calls an AR-15 design rifle an “assault weapon,” then they’ve been duped by an agenda. They may look like military rifles . But they are not .AR-15-style rifles are no more powerful than other hunting rifles of the same caliber .
Mandatory FBI background check are required for all retail firearm purchases Should the back round check be extended ? Maybe .
Quid's rant has a lot of problems
First it is unconstitutional .That pesky 2nd amendment ... recently confirmed by SCOTUS in the Heller decision . The 2nd Amendment protects ALL arms that are commonly used by law abiding citizens. Trust me ,the AR is probably the most popular sporting gun on the market .Only 3% of gun crimes were criminals using the AR . By far pistols are the weapon of choice for criminals. And yes they get the guns without passing the back round checks.

I don't want to get down in the weeds over this - let the boys in Congress work it out.

As far as the 2nd Amendment goes, it's pretty clear to me that it's referring to state militias, but I know that's been litigated so I'm a minority. I can't imagine the writers intended it for individual citizens.

Wondergirl · Mar 23, 2021, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Athos

As far as the 2nd Amendment goes, it's pretty clear to me that it's referring to state militias, but I know that's been litigated so I'm a minority. I can't imagine the writers intended it for individual citizens.

And if they did allow it, those individual citizens would have been allowed muskets, muzzle-loaded long guns -- as should be the case now.