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paraclete · Feb 3, 2020, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Vacuum7

jlisenbe: Entirely disgusting of FOX.....just can't get past the fact that people think offing babies is normal right in any way.

It's not normal it is just another expression of selfishness and irresponsibility

talaniman · Feb 3, 2020, 10:54 AM

Boycott! Take a knee when the anthem plays. Refuse to bake a cake for the gay couple. All sorts of ways to make a company serve you against their will.

jlisenbe · Feb 3, 2020, 12:42 PM

Boycott!

Wish I could, but I already watch next to no football or network television.

Take a knee when the anthem plays.

Completely dumb idea. The U.S. did not make that decision, so what does the Anthem have to do with it?

Refuse to bake a cake for the gay couple.

What???

All sorts of ways to make a company serve you against their will.

Maybe you can come up with one.

talaniman · Feb 3, 2020, 02:01 PM

Your cause, your actions, unless you are a paying customer!

tomder55 · Feb 4, 2020, 06:29 AM

at least they didn't play this PETA monstrosity .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XbC...etvDfk7vrpxRwY

talaniman · Feb 4, 2020, 06:33 AM

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/pol...239913588.html

tomder55 · Feb 4, 2020, 06:45 AM

during a SB Party ? so what ? I was resting on my sofa sucking down an adult beverage during the anthem .Others were looking at a stop watch to see if they won their prop bet . Kneeling is a deliberate gesture designed to make an inappropriate point at a sporting event . To have the animals of the forest doing it in an ad designed to elevate the rights of the animals is to ignore what really happens in the wild . Here is what REALLY happens when an eagle sees a rabbit .
https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/eagl...Jc4Aq8DSh3tAEU

talaniman · Feb 4, 2020, 08:21 AM

Aw geez Tom, we know reality and only some people take kneeling as disrespectful, just the opposite actually, just ask any king. You have to admit though party or not, we do expect more from our leader who blasts others for such disrespect don't you? At the very least shouldn't we treat the dufus and Colin the same way?

Or maybe you give the dufus a free pass because he is above everything right?

jlisenbe · Feb 4, 2020, 08:36 AM

Aw geez Tom, we know reality and only some people take kneeling as disrespectful, just the opposite actually, just ask any king.

So now we're going to conflate the disrespect of kneeling intended towards the flag and country with the respect and honor of kneeling intended towards a king? I don't think that one is going to fly.

As to treating the pres the same way as CK, when Trump takes a knee during the playing of the anthem, then you can just step back and enjoy the dishonor that will be rained heavily upon him by conservatives. However, don't hold your breath waiting on that to happen.

Vacuum7 · Feb 4, 2020, 08:47 AM

No: Stop -footing around the heart of the subject: This kneeling sh&t is EXTREMELY dishonorable to the nation and the veterans of this nation....in fact, it is a big middle finger given to veterans: The problem is, those that are kneeling couldn't carry the bags of those that have served. The kneeling that goes on is a total disgrace. And then you Hayseed and Bounce not getting up off their arses during the National Anthem Of The United States: They can go straight to hell, as far as I am concerned.

The President is becoming much more Presidential in his three years in office: If you don't like him, that is fine and it is your right not to like him but you still need to show the Office Of The President Of The United States a great degree of respect.

talaniman · Feb 4, 2020, 08:52 AM

Nothing about the dufus goofing off during the national anthem conservatives?

tomder55 · Feb 4, 2020, 09:33 AM

we do expect more from our leader

fair point . I think he has ADHD myself .

jlisenbe · Feb 4, 2020, 09:51 AM

we do expect more from our leader

Yeah, that's a fair enough point, I don't see it as a big hairy deal, but it would certainly have been better if he had been more respectful.

Wondergirl · Feb 4, 2020, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

fair point . I think he has ADHD myself .

And is narcissistic....

talaniman · Feb 4, 2020, 11:28 AM

Narcissistic was the word I was searching for, thanks WG. ADHD sounds right, as well as an exaggerated sense of self entitlement, and a lack of empathy for others, among other things that makes him a borderline criminal capable of doing bad things especially if he feels pressed. He could definitely be on meds though, for impulse control, and a muzzle would help tremendously.

Wondergirl · Feb 4, 2020, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Vacuum7

No: Stop -footing around the heart of the subject: This kneeling sh&t is EXTREMELY dishonorable to the nation and the veterans of this nation....

Colin Kaepernick’s protest was NEVER about disrespecting the soldiers or disrespecting this great nation. It’s about the lack of respect that people in this country have for people of darker skin.

jlisenbe · Feb 4, 2020, 11:59 AM

Colin Kaepernick’s protest was NEVER about disrespecting the soldiers or disrespecting this great nation. It’s about the lack of respect that people in this country have for people of darker skin.

Might be true in Chicago, but not down here. Here, a person generally gets the respect he/she has earned. Besides, for CK to be trying to draw attention to that while he, a black man, is earning millions of dollars is about as fake as it can get.

Wondergirl · Feb 4, 2020, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Narcissistic was the word I was searching for, thanks WG. ADHD sounds right, as well as an exaggerated sense of self entitlement, and a lack of empathy for others, among other things that makes him a borderline criminal capable of doing bad things especially if he feels pressed. He could definitely be on meds though, for impulse control, and a muzzle would help tremendously.

You're welcome, tal. I can suggest even more DSM disorders that fit.

Wonder if he'll be doing his important-speech snuffling tonight. Just can't be without that Adderall! (Overdose symptoms may include restlessness, tremor, muscle twitches, rapid breathing, confusion....)

tomder55 · Feb 4, 2020, 12:11 PM

Colin Kaepernick’s protest was NEVER about disrespecting the soldiers or disrespecting this great nation. It’s about the lack of respect that people in this country have for people of darker skin.

actually it was about "police violence" initially . It was later on when his true motive came out that his real motive was to advance his own brand as his NFL career was advancing towards the bench .

Wonder if he'll be doing his important-speech snuffling tonight.

If I were him I would be in your face gloating . But I think he will sound very Presidential and the Dems in Congress will look petty and small.

Wondergirl · Feb 4, 2020, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

actually it was about "police violence" initially . It was later on when his true motive came out that his real motive was to advance his own brand as his NFL career was advancing towards the bench .

You must not be brown or black.

If I were him I would be in your face gloating . But I think he will sound very Presidential and the Dems in Congress will look petty and small.

He has NEVER looked or acted presidential! Always high and mighty smirky.