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    jlisenbe Posts: 5,020, Reputation: 157
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    Feb 3, 2020, 04:22 PM
    First of all, you are missing the point. You raise you know what with Trump, but you say nothing about your liberal darlings. As to this statement, "HC cooperated in her email investigation," please, please tell me you're joking. Remember the destruction of the server's hard drive??? Is that what you call "cooperation", or would you call it destruction of evidence?

    As to your complaint about the law, are you saying there is a law that PROHIBITS a president asking a foreign leader to investigate corruption? Can you quote the part of the law that prohibits that? If you can't (and you can't), then why do you insist that Trump broke the law? And please don't provide one of your "links to nowhere". Quote the part of the law that PROHIBITS a pres from asking a foreign leader to investigate possible criminal activity.
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    #782

    Feb 3, 2020, 04:46 PM
    Now jl, you know you can't inject realism into these debates
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    #783

    Feb 3, 2020, 04:58 PM
    are you saying there is a law that PROHIBITS a president asking a foreign leader to investigate corruption?
    ...meanwhile threatening that foreign leader that the president will withhold aid to the foreign leader's country if he doesn't cooperate?
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    Feb 3, 2020, 05:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    First of all, you are missing the point. You raise you know what with Trump, but you say nothing about your liberal darlings. As to this statement, "HC cooperated in her email investigation," please, please tell me you're joking. Remember the destruction of the server's hard drive??? Is that what you call "cooperation", or would you call it destruction of evidence?
    Well the dufus is the main man yes or no, so why would I look for someone else? Obama took right wing incoming for 8 years dude, and HC for decades so it's our turn, so quit crying. As much as you hate it HC's investigation is over, cleared by the dufus no less...get over it...let it go...your stuck, move on!

    As to your complaint about the law, are you saying there is a law that PROHIBITS a president asking a foreign leader to investigate corruption? Can you quote the part of the law that prohibits that? If you can't (and you can't), then why do you insist that Trump broke the law? And please don't provide one of your "links to nowhere". Quote the part of the law that PROHIBITS a pres from asking a foreign leader to investigate possible criminal activity.
    Your turn to find the facts. Do your own homework since you aren't qualified to grade mine anymore. Stop blaming me for your shortcomings.
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    Feb 3, 2020, 05:29 PM
    ..meanwhile threatening that foreign leader that the president will withhold aid to the foreign leader's country if he doesn't cooperate?
    You left wingers just keep forgetting that making an accusation absent evidence is not the American way.

    Well the dufus is the main man yes or no, so why would I look for someone else? Obama took right wing incoming for 8 years dude, and HC for decades so it's our turn, so quit crying. As much as you hate it HC's investigation is over, cleared by the dufus no less...get over it...let it go...your stuck, move on.
    Yep. Stuck by the fact that you cannot explain your appalling double standard. I can, however...stage 5 TDS!!

    Your turn to find the facts. Do your own homework since you aren't qualified to grade mine anymore. Stop blaming me for your shortcomings.
    Just like I said, you can't. Maybe now you will move on to something you are familiar with. You plainly don't know the law you keep appealing to.
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    Feb 3, 2020, 05:42 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You left wingers just keep forgetting that making an accusation absent evidence is not the American way.

    Yep. Stuck by the fact that you cannot explain your appalling double standard. I can, however...stage 5 TDS!!

    Just like I said, you can't. Maybe now you will move on to something you are familiar with. You plainly don't know the law you keep appealing to.
    You wouldn't know evidence if it hit you in the face and only believe the lies of the dufus and as far as the law goes, not your strong suite so why bother with an inferior debater such as yourself, so lets stick to do nuts where at least you have a chance at the only critical thinking you are qualified for and that's what goes in your belly. Anything higher than your neck is subject to malfunction and lunacy.
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    Feb 3, 2020, 06:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You left wingers just keep forgetting that making an accusation absent evidence is not the American way.
    None of the witnesses to the up-close-and-personal tRump babblings and telephone calls were allowed to testify. Hmm....
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    Feb 3, 2020, 06:09 PM
    None of the witnesses to the up-close-and-personal tRump babblings and telephone calls were allowed to testify. Hmm....
    "Yes, your honor. I realize my witnesses have had nothing useful to say, but I suggest we convict the accused on the basis of what I THINK someone else might say."

    Case dismissed!!

    "Hmmm" indeed.

    You wouldn't know evidence if it hit you in the face and only believe the lies of the dufus and as far as the law goes, not your strong suite so why bother with an inferior debater such as yourself, so lets stick to do nuts where at least you have a chance at the only critical thinking you are qualified for and that's what goes in your belly. Anything higher than your neck is subject to malfunction and lunacy.
    I wouldn't know evidence in this case because you have none. Your name calling once again exposes your lack of anything useful or informative to say. You have no evidence. You have no knowledge of the law you so often appeal to. You have nothing but name-calling. Shame.
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    Feb 3, 2020, 06:25 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    "Yes, your honor. I realize my witnesses have had nothing useful to say, but I suggest we convict the accused on the basis of what I THINK someone else might say."
    Witnesses wanted to testify but tRump tRomped them down.
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    Feb 3, 2020, 06:42 PM
    Witnesses wanted to testify but tRump tRomped them down.
    Who wanted to testify but was TrumpTromped?
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    #791

    Feb 3, 2020, 06:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Who wanted to testify but was TrumpTromped?
    You're kidding, right?
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    Feb 3, 2020, 06:47 PM
    Nope. Not kidding. Names of those who WANTED to testify but were prevented by Trump.
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    #793

    Feb 3, 2020, 06:56 PM
    so is it over yet? it seems to have faded from the news here
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    Feb 3, 2020, 07:06 PM
    Final vote is supposed to take place on Wednesday, or at least as I understand it. Then Pelosi and her bunch will likely start it all up again.
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    #795

    Feb 3, 2020, 07:11 PM
    This is a distraction from the campaign, can they afford to do it again?
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    Feb 3, 2020, 07:17 PM
    Great question. It is a sad commentary on the low place into which our country has descended. It seems there is a battle for our national soul.
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    Feb 3, 2020, 07:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Great question. It is a sad commentary on the low place into which our country has descended. It seems there is a battle for our national soul.
    So true! And the Romans descended even farther. Sounds like we're going down the same path.

    http://www.everygoddamnday.com/2020/...oes-roman.html
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    Feb 3, 2020, 09:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    So true! And the Romans descended even farther. Sounds like we're going down the same path.

    http://www.everygoddamnday.com/2020/...oes-roman.html
    Well you haven't had the assassination in the Senate yet but beware the ides of March
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    Feb 4, 2020, 04:56 AM
    This is a distraction from the campaign, can they afford to do it again?
    it is already happening in Iowa .

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...caucus/606037/

    The Russian bots hacked the Dem server and threw the caucus into chaos. All the Dems declared victory as they left Iowa last night proving that in the woke world equality of result is the ideal of fairness . They should just hand out participation trophies and move on . And if Bernie complains ,he should just look at it as redistribution of the votes .




    there was one clear winner in Iowa … Trump won the Republican caucus by a landslide !
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    Feb 4, 2020, 05:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Well you haven't had the assassination in the Senate yet but beware the ides of March
    March Madness? That's when John Bolton is supposed to get his book released. The one that supposedly declares the dufus told him that he was going to withhold the assistance money until the Ukraine publicly announced an investigation into the Biden's for corruption without a shred of evidence, just allegations. Of course repubs voted not to call him to testify, and are saying publicly there is nothing wrong with holding the money because he has a right to investigate corruption even after the government certified there was none already, and the dufus himself signed the bill for it. Since the dufus released the money after he got caught by a whistleblower, there was no crime and the Ukraine never announced such an investigation so no foul.

    Bolton's testimony blows a whole in that theory, and demonstrates his real intent of attempting to extort a foreign country to throw dirt on his potential political foe under the lie of looking for corruption. While repubs are saying that's not right to do so, they also say it's not bad enough to be booted from office or even admonished or slapped on the wrist.

    Of course the dufus also told repub senators he would stop anyone in his cabinet from testifying before them too, as he did the House dems, so Moscow Mitch and the repubs have squashed ALL witnesses, and will officially end the impeachment investigations on Wednesday after the state of the union is delivered, effectively helping the dufus continue to obstruct justice, and allow the champion of corruption and the right wing loonies to survive yet another challenge to his reign by the liberal left.

    Repubs spent Sunday and Monday speaking of how bad the dufus actions were, while protecting him from the other side of their mouths.

    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    it is already happening in Iowa .

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...caucus/606037/

    The Russian bots hacked the Dem server and threw the caucus into chaos. All the Dems declared victory as they left Iowa last night proving that in the woke world equality of result is the ideal of fairness . They should just hand out participation trophies and move on . And if Bernie complains ,he should just look at it as redistribution of the votes .




    there was one clear winner in Iowa … Trump won the Republican caucus by a landslide !
    Dems looked pretty stupid and incompetent didn't they! No doubt the dufus will point that out during his campaign rally tonight at the SOTU address.

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