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    #701

    Jan 29, 2020, 05:29 AM
    Talaniman: I may be shunned for what I am about to say....possibly even thought to be crazy...BUT, here it goes: Once I saw the infamous "Bluff Creek/Patty" film, my opinion about the potential of a bipedal running around the woods absolutely changed....after so many witnesses to this "creature", as well as pictures and film, they all cannot be loons....there is something out there which can't be explained.
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    Jan 29, 2020, 07:12 AM
    I watch all kinds of stuff and if they can catch giant gators and snakes in the woods and swamps no telling what else is out there and what has visited from someplace else. No your not crazy or strange in that regard.
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    #703

    Jan 29, 2020, 07:30 AM
    Vac, I do have some oceanfront property in Nevada I'd like to sell you.
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    #704

    Jan 29, 2020, 02:34 PM
    jlisenbe: How can you be so sure? One of the most credible/incredible filming of something in the woods like this was in a South Mississippi swamp.
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    Jan 29, 2020, 04:35 PM
    Vac, there might be something to it, but for those creatures to exist there would need to be some stable population of them. One solitary member of a species does not come into existence, live, and die. I just think they would have easily been found by now.
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    Jan 29, 2020, 04:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Vac, there might be something to it, but for those creatures to exist there would need to be some stable population of them. One solitary member of a species does not come into existence, live, and die. I just think they would have easily been found by now.
    Just some weirdo roaming the woods
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    Jan 29, 2020, 05:00 PM
    Just some weirdo roaming the woods
    That made me laugh! I can just picture it.
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    #708

    Jan 29, 2020, 06:17 PM
    Jlisenbe: Do not laugh: Trail game cams from some friends of mine in South Georgia have shown "some weirdo" roaming the woods....and I mean a wild looking, barely clothed man....darned scary. Guy will show up during the day and 1 to 6 AM, doesn't matter.
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    Jan 29, 2020, 08:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Jlisenbe: Do not laugh: Trail game cams from some friends of mine in South Georgia have shown "some weirdo" roaming the woods....and I mean a wild looking, barely clothed man....darned scary. Guy will show up during the day and 1 to 6 AM, doesn't matter.
    Just some schitzo gone native
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    Jan 29, 2020, 08:24 PM
    Jlisenbe: Do not laugh: Trail game cams from some friends of mine in South Georgia have shown "some weirdo" roaming the woods....and I mean a wild looking, barely clothed man....darned scary. Guy will show up during the day and 1 to 6 AM, doesn't matter.
    Schiff?
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    Jan 29, 2020, 08:48 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    Jlisenbe: Do not laugh: Trail game cams from some friends of mine in South Georgia have shown "some weirdo" roaming the woods....and I mean a wild looking, barely clothed man....darned scary. Guy will show up during the day and 1 to 6 AM, doesn't matter.
    Was it trying to untangle its golf cart and long red tie from the underbrush?
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    Jan 30, 2020, 05:40 AM
    They are constantly finding new stuff at the bottom of the oceans, new unseen species of animals and plants in the densest of jungles and rainforests, so the idea of a new or old previously unknown species of man is a possibility, but the fact that they are always looking is the important part and no matter the speculation, opinions, and theories, they keep finding stuff. They're digging in the dirt and finding the dwellings of old long dead settlements and civilizations and you can't help but be impressed when Swamp People snag those huge prehistoric gators, so I would say that it's not that easy to just pass off bigfoot as a loony in the woods, except the evidence says he's a lot bigger than the average human by a LOT. Yeah I watch all those TV programs plus the aliens too. A good diversion from the raucous din of cable news talking heads and politics.

    Speaking of which looks like slick Moscow Mitch and the repubs are looking to wrap this Impeachment thing up this weekend according to plan without any further ado, putting an end to this chapter in history to boot the dufus out. It was a long shot they've always had the votes, but that hardly means the campaign is over by any means as the ads will be coming fast and furious for the summer, and no doubt we will find out more dastardly stuff to throw in the mix. Of course you will just have to live with the victory lap the dufus takes over the dems which he will rub in at every chance he gets until election day, but we knew that already didn't we?

    Instead of letting this stuff drive you nuts though, keep plenty of batteries for the remote on hand and have a life you enjoy for yourself, as part of the survival kit for silly season. To put that in perspective folks, not only are the loonies loose, but people are running around dodging mother nature and disease, and I hope they take the time to vote, if it's allowed.
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    Jan 30, 2020, 08:49 AM
    Talaniman: They haven't, YET, prevented anyone from voting....guess a NATIONAL EMERGENCY could be called and a suspension of elections decreed....but that hasn't happened YET.....Do you still think Trump is THAT SCARY? With all of the crap going on in this world, its a whirling dervish! I might be looking at all this through eyes that don't connect to memories but, I SWEAR, I don't remember a time in my time where there was so much stuff happening so darned fast...keeping up with all of it is just not realistic.....and that's not Demo or Repub, its just that world seems like its about spin off its axis. Its obvious that DISORDER is in a war with ORDER: I can't really tell who is going to win.
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    #714

    Jan 30, 2020, 11:21 AM
    Look deeper Vac, voter suppression has been a concern for years in many states, but especially after the Shelby case was decided in SCOTUS. Even after repubs have admitted publicly that was their plan on a state level.

    Bottom line is it's never as simple as it seems.
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    #715

    Jan 30, 2020, 11:27 AM
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    Talaniman: They haven't, YET, prevented anyone from voting....
    Research gerrymandering. Also read upon what the government is doing on Indian reservations to squelch voting.
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    Jan 30, 2020, 11:52 AM
    Tal, your last link was nothing more than despicable, left-wing propaganda. As for gerrymandering, the dems have been more guilty of that over the years than anyone else. We are now to the ridiculous point that requiring ID to vote, which is the most obvious and proper thing in the world to do, is called racist tactics by people who don't care to do any real thinking on the subject. You have to show ID to buy tobacco products and alcohol, but not to vote? Really? Buying alcohol is more important than voting? It's an absolutely insane idea.
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    #717

    Jan 30, 2020, 12:02 PM
    jlisenbe: People DIE every year overseas trying to vote: How can asking for I.D. be deemed bad? It shouldn't offend anyone AS LONG AS EVERYONE IS REQUIRED THE SAME PRESENTATION: Honestly, if a Vote Poll Staffer was to let me pass without requesting I.D. and asked a person of some non-White ethnicity for their I.D., it would really piss me off!....that's not what we are trying to accomplish with Voter I.D.
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    Jan 30, 2020, 02:23 PM
    Tal, your last link was nothing more than despicable, left-wing propaganda.
    BTW, that was not intended to be a reflection on you, but on the author of the article.

    Vac, I have to show mine every time. No big deal.
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    Jan 30, 2020, 04:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Tal, your last link was nothing more than despicable, left-wing propaganda. As for gerrymandering, the dems have been more guilty of that over the years than anyone else. We are now to the ridiculous point that requiring ID to vote, which is the most obvious and proper thing in the world to do, is called racist tactics by people who don't care to do any real thinking on the subject. You have to show ID to buy tobacco products and alcohol, but not to vote? Really? Buying alcohol is more important than voting? It's an absolutely insane idea.
    Didn't know Bill Moyers ran a left wing site with radical authors, even if the loony you object to was ABSOLUTELY factually correct. Nobody minds ID's, but closing DMV's in some neighborhoods of large minority populations and reducing hours in others that are difficult to access is targeted voter suppression, as well as not allowing college students to vote on campus, or allowing a hunting license to be accepted but not a student ID. You know those little under the radar stuff that doesn't quite make the news. Southern states are notorious for such tricks but they do it everywhere repubs are found with impunity. It ain't about ID's but the hoops you jump through to get them. I mean you can't get an ID without certain required documents and that in itself is a daunting challenge. Can't blame you though if you have no clue the tricks and traps of such a reasonable sounding requirement escapes you.

    A Republican secretary of state or county registrar of voters can target and remove voters in heavily Democratic precincts by sending them first class letters with a “do not forward” stamp on the envelope. If the letters are returned, for any reason, they use that as evidence that the voters do not live at that address and purge them from the voter rolls. If they show up to vote, they are challenged and, at best, required to cast a provisional ballot, with a good chance their vote will not be counted.Republican secretaries of state often create statewide “purge” or “scrub” lists. They find people with names that match someone else and use this as an excuse to assume they are the same person, trying to vote twice and delete them both from the voter rolls, often disregarding little things like Jr. and Sr. and differing middle initials.They also delete people with the same names as felons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vacuum7 View Post
    jlisenbe: People DIE every year overseas trying to vote: How can asking for I.D. be deemed bad? It shouldn't offend anyone AS LONG AS EVERYONE IS REQUIRED THE SAME PRESENTATION: Honestly, if a Vote Poll Staffer was to let me pass without requesting I.D. and asked a person of some non-White ethnicity for their I.D., it would really piss me off!....that's not what we are trying to accomplish with Voter I.D.
    THANKS! Poll watchers shouldn't ask anyone anything.
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    Jan 30, 2020, 05:03 PM
    Didn't know Bill Moyers ran a left wing site with radical authors, even if the loony you object to was ABSOLUTELY factually correct.
    You must not have read it. It was factually a bunch of nonsense.

    Nobody minds ID's
    You must not be listening to many of the democrats.

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