[jlisenbe]

........So?

[talaniman]

So following the money Vlad is paying Rudy's goon squad to gather dirt on the dufus's opponents. They both said they worked for Rudy though, and Rudy is getting paid by whom?

[paraclete]

It's a whodunit you love so much, who did which with what to whom?

[jlisenbe]

So following the money

What money? As is almost always the case, you don't seem to understand that Tal, or Pelosi, or Schumer alleging that something has happened does not even come close to proving it. So if you can ID some money, then we'll follow it.

[talaniman]

Follow Rudy's MONEY!

[jlisenbe]

Oh. I forgot. All those "ghost" witnesses include Rudy.

[talaniman]

They aren't ghost witnesses, they are prohibited by the dufus from testifying. It's one of the Article II impeachment charges. Yes Rudy and his stooges are on MY list as well as law enforcements.

[jlisenbe]

The point is that you are appealing to witnesses when you have no idea what they know or would say. They are basically "ghosts" in that regard. You would be laughed out of town in any court in America with an approach like that. It's just wishful thinking prompted by an extreme hatred of all things Trump.

Which raises an interesting point. Laying aside for a moment his big mouth, what is it about Trump that you dislike so intensely? I specifically mean from the perspective of government policy.

[talaniman]

He LIES, CHEATS AND STEALS, the very basis of immorality by anyones standard. Add to that badmouthing ordinary people like gold star families, careless wanton abuse of desperate men women and children fleeing tyranny and death, and belittling dead people is over the top and way out of bounds and not a role model or even aleader as he tears down people and institions of decency and security by parroting a russians thugs talking points to assuage his own bad rotten behavior. I tell you that Helsinki meeting standing next to Putin should have turned the stomach of every American not just some. Even today moral leaders are waking up.

As far as government policies of the dufus, I express that OFTEN everyday I post. Is it not logical for a trial to have witnesses? Is it not logical that if your own peeps could clear this up he would want them under oath to do so? In the same breadth you claim NO EVIDENCE you also say NO more witnesses needed, while hiding the main ones from public scrutiny. We should have the benefit of facts they can bring to make a reasonable decision shouldn't we?

What is he afraid of? What could he be hiding?

[paraclete]

Tell me if you can, what is the point of impeachment if the house doesn't send the articles to the senate

[talaniman]

They will but what's the hurry since it is the holiday season? Why isn't waiting until they return to session not sufficent? Let the dufus wait and sweat it out and repubs can spin until then. The senate hasn't even agreed on the rules of the trial yet even though Moscow Mitch and Senator Graham have said they would not be impartial as the oath the will take for the trial requires.

[jlisenbe]

I hope they wait a long time. They already have looked completely foolish in the so called "investigation". Now they can look even more foolish by refusing to send the articles of impeachment on the ridiculous theory that Nancy P should be able to tell the Senate how to do their business. Rather amazingly, they have made Trump look like the mature one, and that's not easy to do.

[talaniman]

You are speaking just for yourself and the right wing loonies aren't you?

[paraclete]

Well tal he might be right

[talaniman]

He is right Clete, far, far right!

[jlisenbe]

You are speaking just for yourself and the right wing loonies aren't you?

Just for me, but if we can regain the House, then you'll see even more progress being made.

[paraclete]

Give it up jl, you know your people won't put absolute power in anyone's hands

[talaniman]

Give it up jl, you know your people won't put absolute power in anyone's hands

They did pretty good with the dufus making him king of repubs who will chop off the heads of anyone who crosses him.

Just for me, but if we can regain the House, then you'll see even more progress being made.

What if you lose the senate, or the WH? Or both?

[paraclete]

They did pretty good with the dufus making him king of repubs who will chop off the heads of anyone who crosses him.



What if you lose the senate, or the WH? Or both?

Trump has stumbled along because the party isn't with him, doubtful he is a true republican just a pelican. he couldn't get major things he wanted to do done so he isn't king of anything he doesn't own

[jlisenbe]

Give it up jl, you know your people won't put absolute power in anyone's hands

You mean like happened in 2008 and 2016?