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tomder55 · May 29, 2019, 07:25 PM

the real investigation of the real crime is only beginning . Mueller better keep a low profile . As noted the real abuse of power in this case began no later that 2012 as

FISA court Judge Collyer found and detailed .That is where the genesis of this scandal begins . As for election interference ;or trying to influence the results of elections …. . We have played that game throughout our history ;as have the Russians . One of our "achievements" was the installing of Boris Yeltsin as Russian President by Bubba . That the result of that folly was the rise of Putin is entirely besides the point .

Wondergirl · May 29, 2019, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

To investigate the extent of Russian attack on our election and anything related. It's the job of congress to deal with crimes the president may have committed. He got the other bozo's or is in the process.

Exactly! In his report, Mueller didn't say IF; he said WHEN. Now the ball is in Congress's court.

talaniman · May 30, 2019, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

the real investigation of the real crime is only beginning . Mueller better keep a low profile . As noted the real abuse of power in this case began no later that 2012 as

FISA court Judge Collyer found and detailed .That is where the genesis of this scandal begins . As for election interference ;or trying to influence the results of elections …. . We have played that game throughout our history ;as have the Russians . One of our "achievements" was the installing of Boris Yeltsin as Russian President by Bubba . That the result of that folly was the rise of Putin is entirely besides the point .

And that's the excuse to ignore what the dufus is doing NOW?

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Exactly! In his report, Mueller didn't say IF; he said WHEN. Now the ball is in Congress's court.

No telling what the redacted classified stuff is about.

tomder55 · May 30, 2019, 06:19 AM

No telling what the redacted classified stuff is about.

I'm for releasing all. There's just that law thingy that Congress passed. Why isn't pathfinder Schiff or that greasy blob Nadler fast tracking the legislation to repeal the law ?

jlisenbe · May 30, 2019, 06:44 AM

This is just politics as its worst. The hatred on display is appalling. Before Mueller's report, all you heard was that Trump was guilty of collusion. Mueller could not prove that, so now they have shifted gears to obstruction. In the meantime, the business of the country is ignored. It's pathetic. From my point of view, if they do manage to get to Trump with "trumped-up" charges, then the reaction of the country will not be nice. It will just further separate us. Pence would then be president, and I would think he would be a good one, so the dems would have to figure out a new way to generate hatred towards a new president.

paraclete · May 30, 2019, 06:50 AM

so the dems would have to figure out a new way to generate hatred towards a new president.

no problem he is not a Demonrat

tomder55 · May 30, 2019, 07:25 AM

Before the election Comey held a presser where he detailed crime after crime that Evita and her entourage committed .He then said a reasonable prosecutor would not charge her . Now Mueller writes a 600 page report where in the 1st half he said he found no evidence of a crime and in the 2nd half published 300 pages of gossip and innuendo and then says that he found no proof that Trump didn't commit a crime (nice double negative ) . These boys are bizarre .

tomder55 · May 30, 2019, 08:33 AM

Members of the jury . You will find the defendant guilty ,not guilty ........or not not guilty .

talaniman · May 30, 2019, 08:55 AM

This from the guys that have thrown rocks at the Clintons for decades before they sicced Russia on her.

jlisenbe · May 30, 2019, 12:27 PM

This from the guys that have thrown rocks at the Clintons for decades before they sicced Russia on her.

There was no doubt that HC broke the law with her email scandal. There was no doubt that she lied about it as well. Comey just declined to press charges, and this a few days after HC's hubby met with the AG in private for nearly an hour. Naw. Nothing suspicious or unethical there. The same dems who feign outrage now were more than happy to support HC then. Politics.

tomder55 · May 30, 2019, 01:10 PM

it was not his role to press charges or not. That was Loretta Lynche's job. He made recommedations just like Mueller should've .Ken Starr did not press charges against Bubba. He cited instances where he thought there was "substantial and credible evidence" that Bubba lied under oath and orchestrated an obstruction.

talaniman · May 30, 2019, 03:08 PM

The repub congress then could have acted as it saw fit, as they did with the Benghazi hearings. They did not, after MANY hearings. The dems have the same choice don't they? Sure they do. Russia if your listening....!

jlisenbe · May 30, 2019, 03:43 PM

it was not his role to press charges or not. That was Loretta Lynche's job.

If you remember, Lynch had to pass the decision off to Comey after it became public that she met with Bill.

talaniman · May 30, 2019, 03:51 PM

She should have passed it to the deputy AG. I doubt that would have mollified the right.

tomder55 · May 30, 2019, 04:00 PM

Lynch did not recuse herself .That is a Don Lemon lie .She did say that she would accept the FBI recommendation. But that was her call ;and I'm sure that was a prearranged decision .

talaniman · May 30, 2019, 05:06 PM

I never said the R word, just her deputy should have made the call. I doubt it mattered since it was a left wing plot in the first place. Just like the Mueller Report right? I mean Left? No up, maybe down.

tomder55 · May 31, 2019, 08:36 AM

Mueller : the Ruskies I indicted deserve the presumption of innocence .

Mueller : Trump is not not guilty

talaniman · May 31, 2019, 08:49 AM

Maybe you will never get those Ruskies in court or the higher ups who ordered it, but you darn sure cannot ignore it, nor turn a blind eye to those in the US who aided, abeited, and enabled it with or without knowledge. That makes the words, actions, and behavior regarding the matter that much more aggregious.

tomder55 · Jun 4, 2019, 06:22 PM

I have reviewed all the material on Mr. Mueller that I can find, and IF I were able to proclaim that he is not a child molester, I would have stated so. In fact, I was unable to clearly PROVE that he is not a child molester, so I can not exonerate him of this charge. I will leave that up to a political process to decide.........

Athos · Jun 5, 2019, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

I have reviewed all the material on Mr. Mueller that I can find, and IF I were able to proclaim that he is not a child molester, I would have stated so. In fact, I was unable to clearly PROVE that he is not a child molester, so I can not exonerate him of this charge. I will leave that up to a political process to decide.........

LOL - good thing you're not an attorney.