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    Aug 21, 2015, 09:03 AM
    Ethnic cleansing
    Hello:

    Right wing radio talker, Jan Mickelson, says ENSLAVE the undocumented immigrants if they don't leave when they're told. Is this how ethnic cleansing begins? I think it DOES.

    IA Radio Host Jan Mickelson: Enslave Undocumented Immigrants Unless They Leave | Blog | Media Matters for America

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    Aug 21, 2015, 09:15 AM
    People are seeing how much attention the Donald is getting for stupid one liners and copycat that to make money. Stupid one liners are covered by the media and any press is good press. No or low ratings means he’s out of a job so stupid one liners are understandable. Pathetic, but understandable.
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    Aug 21, 2015, 09:41 AM
    Clearly there is a market for saying dumb stupid stuff, but do you think there are enough dumb stupid people to actually do the stuff Trump talks about, Ex?

    I hope not, or I may have to stop eating popcorn and watching the repub clown show, and exercise MY second amendment rights.

    Do I sound like a winger? OMG stupid IS contagious!
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    Aug 21, 2015, 09:44 AM
    Never heard of him even though Media Matters is trying to inflate him into being an influential conservative king maker. He was clearly being satirical, with his point being that illegals who come here and tap into the social welfare state 'enslave 'the taxpayers . I'm sure that Media Matters intentionally missed that point .
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    Aug 21, 2015, 01:28 PM
    The one ethnic cleansing taking place in the USA is being done by the Liberals. Planned parenthood kills more black babies than are born every year.

    A major point the Left refuses to even acknowledge.

    As far as the illegals... yeah... I endorse endentured servitude for them... at least we will get something back for all the tax dollars we have spent on them. 30- 40 years should suffice.

    Unless they leave... apply the right way... get legal papers and come back legal like they should have in the first place.

    But then I don't make policy... throne kings... or much else.
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    Aug 21, 2015, 03:17 PM
    And yet smoothy you still have more black people, speaking of the resiliance of the race, ask yourself who is responsible for this genocide.

    Planned parenthood kills MORE black babies than are born every year
    You really should tone down the rhetoric, it is unworthy of an educated man and besides you just wrote an absurdity


    However going back to the seventeenth century, this is a barbaric solution
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    Aug 21, 2015, 03:44 PM
    Since its abortion... and nobody was marching them in under gunpoint... they have themselves to blame.

    Its statistically accurate, Not Rhetoric.


    Actually I'm not a die hard pro-lifer...
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    Aug 21, 2015, 03:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Since its abortion... and nobody was marching them in under gunpoint... they have themselves to blame.

    Its statistically accurate, Not Rhetoric.


    Actually I'm not a die hard pro-lifer...
    Get real how can this statement be statistically accurate? It is pure rhetoric and poor rhetoric at that

    Planned parenthood kills MORE black babies than are born every year
    Please give us the benefit of your statistics where you demonstrate that the organisation Planned Parenthood aborts more black babies than are born anywhere in a year or even in the US
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    Aug 21, 2015, 04:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Get real how can this statement be statistically accurate? It is pure rhetoric and poor rhetoric at that



    Please give us the benefit of your statistics where you demonstrate that the organisation Planned Parenthood aborts more black babies than are born anywhere in a year or even in the US
    Google black abortion statistics... they are all over the web. Easy to find... and no need to me to cherry pick
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    Aug 21, 2015, 11:31 PM
    Smoothy what you allege is not logical on the one hand you have statistics saying more blacks are aborted than born yet predications say the black population will grow to 71 million by 2050, now either they are having children or they are not. Planned Parenthood is alleged to have aborted almost 400,000 but that is nothing like the total of US abortions so you cannot say "Planned Parenthood kills MORE black babies than are born every year" something else in is the mix here
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    Aug 22, 2015, 03:21 AM
    Smoothy what you allege is not logical
    You are right. I've been down this path with him before - you will NEVER gets facts to support the argument. It is indeed just inflammatory rhetoric. No need to carry on the discussion as it's just an uneducated racist rant.
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    Aug 22, 2015, 03:26 AM
    What he is saying, is that the majority of abortions are black babies. That is a fact, at least in the US. China aborts more Chinese than anybody, but it is done to lower the population. It takes several generations but abortion in mass numbers, does lower populations.
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    Aug 22, 2015, 03:30 AM
    Yup and Planned Parenthood was founded by racist ,ethnic cleansing ,eugenists Margaret Sanger .
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    Aug 22, 2015, 03:48 AM
    Abortion is becoming just another method of birth control. It is easy to see where America is headed when you see how things have ended in other nations. Here for example, birth control pills are seldom used, the belief is that they are bad for a women's body. Condoms and sometimes the morning after pill are about the only regular used birth control methods, beyond having an abortion if you become pregnant. It is normal for a women by the time she reaches 40, to have had 2 to 5 abortions.
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    Aug 22, 2015, 04:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You are right. I've been down this path with him before - you will NEVER gets facts to support the argument. It is indeed just inflammatory rhetoric. No need to carry on the discussion as it's just an uneducated racist rant.
    You should know.. that's how you base ALL your posts here... rhetoric and no facts to back them up.

    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Smoothy what you allege is not logical on the one hand you have statistics saying more blacks are aborted than born yet predications say the black population will grow to 71 million by 2050, now either they are having children or they are not. Planned Parenthood is alleged to have aborted almost 400,000 but that is nothing like the total of US abortions so you cannot say "Planned Parenthood kills MORE black babies than are born every year" something else in is the mix here
    Use Google... plenty of facts there back my claims up without having to go down to page 146 of results...

    Now being on the opposite side of the Planet.. you would not be aware that Planned Parenthood is the MAJOR provider of abortions in the USA.
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    Aug 22, 2015, 05:33 AM
    Planned Parenthood is the MAJOR provider of abortions in the USA.
    So what? Not sure what you're point is here.
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    Aug 22, 2015, 06:27 AM
    His point is services for 10 million clients a year should be stopped because they do 300,000 abortions. By law abortions cannot be funded by taxpayer dollars. This is verified by tax filings every year. There is no ethnic cleansing when abortions are LEGAL, and voluntary.

    http://plannedparenthood.org/files/4...P_Services.pdf
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    Aug 22, 2015, 06:49 AM
    What I get from this is black americans are committing genocide on their own race, but not only black americans, all americans, and for that matter many people all over the world. I doubt any country is immune. Is the government complicit, well perhaps they are not actively discouraging the practice
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    Aug 22, 2015, 07:43 AM
    If you don't like abortion don't get one.
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    Aug 22, 2015, 09:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    His point is services for 10 million clients a year should be stopped because they do 300,000 abortions. By law abortions cannot be funded by taxpayer dollars. This is verified by tax filings every year. There is no ethnic cleansing when abortions are LEGAL, and voluntary.

    http://plannedparenthood.org/files/4...P_Services.pdf
    let's see $528.4 in government funds ;$305.3 million from non-governmental sources .So you would agree that most of their money comes from the taxpayer .

    The taxpayer contributions to the organization frees up funding for their baby wacking and harvesting of baby parts for profit .

    Even if PP never used one penny of taxpayer money for abortions, our money should not be going to an abortion provider, regardless of what other services they provide . There are plenty of FQHCs available that don't provide abortions that we could fund instead.

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