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    Jul 13, 2015, 09:59 AM
    They are no less equal because their particular ethnic group is not named in the constitution in fact that is equality, they are no more equal than anyone else. Any provision which specifically singled them out was removed from the constitution long ago and they became human, not fauna.
    The left needs sub-group identity to justify their philosophy .
    If they can't find victims to champion ,they make them up and their grevience .They thrive on fostering self pity in the group while they profess and encourge self rightious anger . They are largely succeeding .The protected victim groups are no longer in the minority of the population . Soon there won't be any group that isn't a victim except perhaps white conservative males.
    Modern victimhood is a political status that is sought after because of the advantages it brings.
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    #322

    Jul 13, 2015, 10:03 AM
    Blah blah blah fanatical echo chamber speak...
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    #323

    Jul 13, 2015, 03:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The left needs sub-group identity to justify their philosophy .
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    Where do you get this stuff or should I say guff. The left identifies with minorities because the right ignores them and even victimises them. The true victim in all of this is the silent majority because they are exploited with the sort of rhetoric you expound
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    Jul 14, 2015, 03:43 AM
    “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. "
    Elmer T Peterson

    When a government grants itself the power to bestow material benefits selectively on individuals and groups, people are going to seek to take advantage of that government and grievance industries will abound.The left thrives on that.
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    #325

    Jul 14, 2015, 04:09 AM
    When a government grants itself the power to bestow material benefits selectively on individuals and groups, people are going to seek to take advantage of that government and grievance industries will abound.The left thrives on that.
    Nope, both your political parties do that - you are just too obtuse to see that. You have lost control of your government, no amount of hollering from the cheap seats on an internet forum will change that.
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    #326

    Jul 14, 2015, 04:28 AM
    yep there are a bunch of RINO statists in the Repubics too . That's why I did not identify them by party affiliation .
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    #327

    Jul 14, 2015, 04:33 AM
    Nope, they (US politicians) all are out to make a killing on the public treasury... and in private deals with special interest groups. Remember - the accumulation of wealth is the highest priority there, it trumps all else.
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    #328

    Jul 14, 2015, 07:51 AM
    Yes but Tom doesn't identify that by party affiliation, he sits on the fence and casts aspirtions
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    #329

    Jul 14, 2015, 08:30 AM
    I've made it clear I am not a Republican . This is not a fence sitting situation . They are closer to where I am at than the hopelessly progressive Democrats . But I still have major disagreements with their leadership on some important issues.
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    #330

    Jul 14, 2015, 03:37 PM
    Republican leadership, can it be found in the land? The current string of candidates cannot be said to represent leadership although one may emerge from the ruck if enough money is spent
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    #331

    Jul 22, 2015, 04:00 PM
    Someone just doesn't get it
    Do they? another black death after an incident involving a police officer

    'I will light you up!': Texas officer threatened Sandra Bland with Taser during traffic stop

    The culture of white on black violence continues
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    #332

    Jul 22, 2015, 06:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Do they? another black death after an incident involving a police officer

    'I will light you up!': Texas officer threatened Sandra Bland with Taser during traffic stop

    The culture of white on black violence continues

    Do you think anyone black white or whatever color of the day should disobey direct orders from a police officer that appear to be normal in the course of a routine traffic stop? It just illistrates more of the media trying to push an agenda then it is anything that smacks of over stepping boundries.

    They want to see a war internally in this country and they are pushing for it daily. It is truely sad.
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    #333

    Jul 22, 2015, 07:16 PM
    The cops blew another one!
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    #334

    Jul 22, 2015, 07:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    Do you think anyone black white or whatever color of the day should disobey direct orders from a police officer that appear to be normal in the course of a routine traffic stop? It just illistrates more of the media trying to push an agenda then it is anything that smacks of over stepping boundries.

    They want to see a war internally in this country and they are pushing for it daily. It is truely sad.
    Normal, is it normal for a police officer to be abusive, obnoxious, officious and just plain arrogant over a minor infringement where he was just filling his book. I find the whole procedure incrediable. Tal I saw the video and to me that cop was over the top, Not only that but the camera is there for a reason and he deliberately took the arrestee out of view of the camera. Is what happens when someone stands up for their rights in your country, He assaulted that woman in her car and then arrested her for an assault on him.

    Maybe you do need another war of liberation, it appears the results of the first one have been forgotten
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    #335

    Jul 22, 2015, 08:12 PM
    And why would she hang herself in jail? She had just landed a job she really wanted, and her sister was going to pay the $500 bail.
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    #336

    Jul 22, 2015, 09:09 PM
    Deaths in custody can be inexplicable, some people can be very depressed by being placed in jail for more than a few hours. We have had a lot of experience here with people of colour dying in custody, but the reasons would be entirely different there where there is entrenched racism. As there were no cameras in her cell the whole thing is very suspect
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    #337

    Jul 22, 2015, 09:16 PM
    She seemed angry, not depressed. Depression is anger turned inwards, but there was no reason to be angry at herself.
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    #338

    Jul 22, 2015, 09:23 PM
    Looking at the stats it seems deaths in custody is an all too frequent occurrence
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    #339

    Jul 23, 2015, 08:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Normal, is it normal for a police officer to be abusive, obnoxious, officious and just plain arrogant over a minor infringement where he was just filling his book. I find the whole procedure incrediable. Tal I saw the video and to me that cop was over the top, Not only that but the camera is there for a reason and he deliberately took the arrestee out of view of the camera. Is what happens when someone stands up for their rights in your country, He assaulted that woman in her car and then arrested her for an assault on him.

    Maybe you do need another war of liberation, it appears the results of the first one have been forgotten

    It appears to me that the woman was out of line by refusing to put out her cigarette and then later refusing to get out of the car as she had been asked to do. All the while mouthing off to the officer.

    Maybe where your at you can tell the cops how you want it handled but here you are expected to obey when asked to comply.
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    #340

    Jul 23, 2015, 08:53 AM
    Even when the officer is full of crap?

    Yasum, masta!

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