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paraclete · Jan 24, 2015, 02:19 PM

I don't see it that war, Russia is the power in the region, who is going to take it away, not Ukraine, and it is an important Black Sea port for them. Crimia is only a recent addition to the Ukraine, a political move in the soviet days. They can just as easily create a concrete bridge as fight over a land bridge. Ukraine has trouble dealing with dissidents in Donetsk even though it has one of the largest armies in Europe. What is happening is the artificial construct of the Ukraine is breaking up because there are different peoples there, both ethnicity and religion. Ukraine is important to Russia because of the gas pipelines. Economically it is vital and this war is stupid because it threatens both Russia and Europe, better that the decision of the people be respected

tomder55 · Jan 24, 2015, 03:03 PM

They can just as easily create a concrete bridge as fight over a land bridge.

Concrete bridges are easily demolished .

What is happening is the artificial construct of the Ukraine is breaking up because there are different peoples there, both ethnicity and religion.

Correct ,just like the EU is an artificial construct which for many reasons I believe is on it's death bed........this new proposed QE may be the nail in the coffin. History has shown only one way for a united Europe ;and that is one imposed on it.

paraclete · Jan 24, 2015, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Concrete bridges are easily demolished .

Correct ,just like the EU is an artificial construct which for many reasons I believe is on it's death bed........this new proposed QE may be the nail in the coffin. History has shown only one way for a united Europe ;and that is one imposed on it.

Given the size of the land bridge I would say the same goes for it, seriously a cooperative attitude would solve many problems. As for europa yes it has gotten out of hand, too many hangers on and too many subsidies to agriculture. I don't know why Ukraine doesn't set up some autonomous regions as a solution

tomder55 · Jan 25, 2015, 03:14 AM

as I recall ,Putin suggested that many lives lost ago.

paraclete · Jan 25, 2015, 05:36 AM

Good ideas aren't restricted to the west, not being able to opt out is b/s that is restricted to a certain western nation and look what it cost them, history repeats itself. If we fail to learn from history we doom ourselves to repeat mistakes