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    Jul 26, 2014, 06:21 AM
    Cuomo (il Duce )the corrupt
    I first brought up his squashing the Moreland Commission here .
    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post3648873

    Well the NY Slimes has finally gotten around to reporting it .

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/23/ny...sion.html?_r=0
    The full investigation is here :
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/23/ny...ommission.html
    To make a long story short . He empaneled the commission to investigate corruption in Albany. He was hoping no doubt to catch a bunch of the NYS Senate Repubics . But as the commission was conducting it's business ,it became clear that the people they were investigating were some of Cuomo's gumbas .

    The Slimes takes it from here :

    But a three-month examination by The New York Times found that the governor’s office deeply compromised the panel’s work, objecting whenever the commission focused on groups with ties to Mr. Cuomo or on issues that might reflect poorly on him.
    Ultimately, Mr. Cuomo abruptly disbanded the commission halfway through what he had indicated would be an 18-month life. And now, as the Democratic governor seeks a second term in November, federal prosecutors are investigating the roles of Mr. Cuomo and his aides in the panel’s shutdown and are pursuing its unfinished business.
    Before its demise, Mr. Cuomo’s aides repeatedly pressured the commission, many of whose members and staff thought they had been given a once-in-a-career chance at cleaning up Albany. As a result, the panel’s brief existence — and the writing and editing of its sole creation, a report of its preliminary findings — was marred by infighting, arguments and accusations. Things got so bad that investigators believed a Cuomo appointee was monitoring their communications without their knowledge. Resignations further crippled the commission. In the end, the governor got the Legislature to agree to a package of ethics reforms far less ambitious than those the commission had recommended — a result Mr. Cuomo hailed as proof of the panel’s success.

    Cuomo still defends his actions by saying that since he created the commission he has the power to end the commissions work . That is hardly a convining defense of his actions if you ask me . Only an arrogant dictator would have the onions to use that defense.....Only someone with a 30 point poll lead. His opponent ,[SIZE=2]Rob Astorino says Cuomo's action is a criminal obstruction of justice ,and is calling for an investigation.[/SIZE]

    It is unclear if this story will have an impact on his reelection chances (NY being a state populated by brainwashed Democrat zombies ) . However ,there was talk of him throwing his hat in the Presidential ring. I think the chances are slim now that he will take the plunge.
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    Jul 26, 2014, 06:30 AM
    well Tom my response is in my signature

    ''Let us sit upon the ground and tell sad stories of the deaths of kings.'' William Shakespeare
    By the way does anyone know why our signatures have disappeared?
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    Jul 26, 2014, 06:43 AM
    Jon Stewart is a genius who explains the scandal better than I can.

    CSI: Cuomo Scandal Investigation - The Daily Show - Video Clip | Comedy Central
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    Jul 26, 2014, 02:06 PM
    il Duce now hiding, cancelling appearances, after the Slimes exposed his role in corruption scandal.

    Where's Andrew? | New York Post
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    Jul 26, 2014, 05:33 PM
    so a victory for the little guy then
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    Jul 26, 2014, 06:51 PM
    doubt it ; Cuomo has a 30 point lead against Rob Astorino (who is a very effective County Executive ) . The only positive I see in this is that the Feds have taken an interest . Albany (the State capital of NY ) is a sewer , and the only difference between here and Illinois is that their Governors go to jail when they are caught .
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    Jul 26, 2014, 08:11 PM
    Tom have you ever thought there must be something wrong with the system if you consistently elect criminals to high office
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    Jul 27, 2014, 12:47 AM
    only in that if there is only one party then you are living in a soviet system. What we have in common with Illinois is that there is no real opposition to the Democrat machine. It has been that way since the days of Tammany Hall.
    Tammany Hall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The NY Repubic party is the lamest local party in the nation.
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    Jul 27, 2014, 04:02 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    only in that if there is only one party then you are living in a soviet system. What we have in common with Illinois is that there is no real opposition to the Democrat machine. It has been that way since the days of Tammany Hall.
    Tammany Hall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The NY Repubic party is the lamest local party in the nation.
    Spoiled for choice, perhaps you should swap that "two party" system for one that offers choice
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    Jul 27, 2014, 05:34 AM
    Its just the same, Tom, in red conservative governed states of the south and plains, so are they too, bastions of soviet style governments?
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    Jul 27, 2014, 07:21 AM
    I though Mc carthyism was dead Tal apparently not so
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    Jul 27, 2014, 07:51 AM
    There will always be people who make anyone different than them the enemy, and that's in every society and culture. It's always been that way. It's just recycled, repackaged, remarketed HATE.
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    Jul 27, 2014, 03:58 PM
    Yes tal beyond all reason
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    Jul 27, 2014, 04:42 PM
    oh isn't that hilarious . Now Cuomo is the victim.
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    Jul 27, 2014, 05:53 PM
    Never said that Tom.
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    Jul 28, 2014, 12:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    oh isn't that hilarious . Now Cuomo is the victim.
    The victums here are those who have to swallow this load of "rhetoric"
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    Jul 28, 2014, 04:15 AM
    There are as many republican governors across the land who are just as bad as the democrats the right dumps on. Some want to be president, some may not even get re elected.
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    Jul 28, 2014, 06:05 AM
    What does that mean Tal? All you are saying is you have bad government, democracy as you have implemented it has failed

    Tal I don't get it , government after so long should not be a work in progress, both our nations have had plenty of time to iron out the bugs in democracy, there is no excuse for the crap we have to endure except that the politicians we have needd to be stood against the wall and shot. this is not revolution but evolution

    By the way moderator this spellchecker is absolute crap
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    Jul 28, 2014, 06:10 AM
    The concept works Clete, some of the people are flawed. Just like everywhere else. Even in your Island Paradise.

    Both our governments and institutions are a works in progress and have room for growth and improvements.
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    Jul 28, 2014, 02:08 PM
    Its just the same, Tom,
    in red conservative governed states of the south and plains, so are they too, bastions of soviet style governments?
    to answer your question ;it's obviously no . Whereas the "progressives believe in expansive government control; the conservatives would like to reduce the size of government and it's power over the individual.

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