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    #101

    Apr 17, 2014, 10:06 AM
    Maybe we could learn a better way if you tell us how you do it in Canada.

    Federal political financing in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Political donations in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Looks like we are all a works in progress and the elites have the inside track of influence.
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    #102

    Apr 17, 2014, 10:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Why? Do you think we'll be comparing amounts like $50 million from a single person/org?
    I already know the answer . Your governement decides how much each political party can spend .... (and it's not equal across the board.) So what you have is an incumbency protection plan. Your heavy regulation of political broadcast time also serves as incumbency protection.
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    #103

    Apr 17, 2014, 10:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    serves as incumbency protection.
    Your theory falls flat since the political party in charge changes continuously. The amounts is part of the Elections Act and is not written by one party (of course).
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    #104

    Apr 17, 2014, 11:09 AM
    New Yorkers tell the Fascists in charge what to do with their anti-American gun grab attempts.

    Mass Civil Disobedience in New York Against ‘Safe Act’ |
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    #105

    Apr 17, 2014, 12:22 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    I guess there is now an excuse and an explanation for the "Elite" class... incest.

    UNIVERSITIES NOW BREED INTELLECTUAL IMBECILES |

    No, he was talking about ruling elites.
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    #106

    Apr 17, 2014, 02:27 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    No, he was talking about ruling elites.
    Not really much different... most of them are part of the same crowd. And they behave in the very same way...
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    #107

    Apr 18, 2014, 04:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Not really much different... most of them are part of the same crowd. And they behave in the very same way...
    One important difference is that the ruling classes actually do, and have the capacity, to buy favours. The majority of the intelligentsia don't actually have the capacity to buy the favours needed to support their political ideology.
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    #108

    Apr 18, 2014, 08:21 AM
    universities have been breeding intellectual imbeciles for a long time and the more university graduates you have the more imbeciles you will get. I wonder who has the most imbeciles? Higher education doesn't necessarily mean higher intelligence
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    #109

    Apr 18, 2014, 08:28 AM
    The few governing the many is the current case. An imbecile with money has power and influence. A politician who knows a few rich imbeciles is likely to succeed.
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    #110

    Apr 18, 2014, 09:22 AM
    Exactly... Martha Stewart does it... she goes to jail... Nancy Pelosi, HArry Reid Barabar Feinstien do it... they get rich and have a free pass to continue doing it.

    Its not what you know... its who you know... sometimes who you know that knows what.
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    #111

    Apr 18, 2014, 09:43 AM
    More total insanity from the Obama administration... one of the infinately imbicilic White House "ADVISORS" Lisa Monaco

    White House Counterterror Chief: “Confrontational” Children Could be Terrorists |

    The Public school system largely responsible the last several generations of juivenile delinquents... have now become TERRORISTS.
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    #112

    Apr 18, 2014, 10:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The few governing the many is the current case. An imbecile with money has power and influence. A politician who knows a few rich imbeciles is likely to succeed.
    You nailed that one precisely:

    Study: The U.S. Is an Oligarchy
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    #113

    Apr 18, 2014, 04:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    You nailed that one precisely:

    Study: The U.S. Is an Oligarchy
    And lack of political will goes a long way to ensure hat the status quo will continue well into the future.
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    #114

    Apr 18, 2014, 04:32 PM
    no comment
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    #115

    Apr 20, 2014, 03:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    no comment
    There is still a way.

    Wolf PAC
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    #116

    Apr 20, 2014, 03:33 AM
    ironic.... a political action committee created to solicit donations for the purpose of influencing the governance of the nation. Guess you support their free speech rights .
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    #117

    Apr 20, 2014, 03:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    ironic.... a political action committee created to solicit donations for the purpose of influencing the governance of the nation. Guess you support their free speech rights .
    No irony. How much of your money is contributing to free speech at the moment?
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    #118

    Apr 20, 2014, 03:43 AM
    As a North Carolina State fan, I think they have some name issues

    NC State University Official Athletic Site
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    #119

    Apr 20, 2014, 03:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    As a North Carolina State fan, I think they have some name issues

    NC State University Official Athletic Site
    I think the difference is in the word, "pac"
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    #120

    Apr 20, 2014, 06:13 AM
    How much of your money
    is contributing to free speech at the moment?
    as much as I choose. That's why I support the Citizen's United and the McCutcheon v FEC decisions.
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