[tomder55]

you won't get my ear arguing that if a judge says it ,it must be so. I don't see their power as absolute as you do.

The Brennan Center is Wrong: Voter Fraud is a Real Threat to Every Citizen's Constitutional Rights

[paraclete]

got a bit of a problem with judicial integrity do we

[talaniman]

Well heck Tom, you can call the judge wrong, but you have to appeal it. That's just the law, and the process. I mean you guys are arguing you're right AFTER being JUDGED wrong, AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN.

Oh, your link is from 2012, after the judge said you guy were WRONG!!

[paraclete]

Yes Tom likes to rely older thoughts

[smoothy]

Shock News!!!! That Voter Fraud Which Has Never Been Proven Has Happened Again!!! | suyts space Its been proven to be real over and over again... its only the democrats that have everything to lose that keep denying it. THis was only ONE district that was looked closely at...and it was by an NBC affiliate. NBC is a left wing network.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Here's the deal.. I quoted a real study, done by people who have NO stake in the outcome... Why it's real, is because the facts and it's conclusions can be VERIFIED. I'm NOT surprised that you can't tell the difference between scholarly work, and opinion by a partisan hack.

excon

[tomder55]

Hello again, tom:

Here's the deal.. I quoted a real study, done by people who have NO stake in the outcome... Why it's real, is because the facts and it's conclusions can be VERIFIED. I'm NOT surprised that you can't tell the difference between scholarly work, and opinion by a partisan hack.

excon

The "partisan hack " referenced The Pew Research center as his source:

Pew Research Center is a nonpartisan fact tank that informs the public about the issues, attitudes and trends shaping America and the world. It conducts public opinion polling, demographic research, media content analysis and other empirical social science research. Pew Research does not take policy positions

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About the Pew Research Center | Pew Research Center
Among their findings according to the "non-partisan " NY Slimes is that

One in eight active registrations is invalid or inaccurate. At the same time, one in four people who are eligible to vote — at least 51 million potential voters — are not registered. The report found that there are about 1.8 million dead people listed as active voters. Some 2.8 million people have active registrations in more than one state. And 12 million registrations have errors serious enough to make it unlikely that mailings based on them will reach voters.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/14/us...inds.html?_r=0
There is a way to fix this ,but the Dems resist it because they rely on the game being rigged.

[Wondergirl]

There is a way to fix this

How?

[talaniman]

Shock News!!!! That Voter Fraud Which Has Never Been Proven Has Happened Again!!! | suyts space Its been proven to be real over and over again... its only the democrats that have everything to lose that keep denying it. THis was only ONE district that was looked closely at...and it was by an NBC affiliate. NBC is a left wing network.

So the solution is another purge?

Florida's latest voter purge bid draws criticism

In 2012, at Scott's behest, the state attempted to purge non-U.S. citizens from voter rolls in an effort he said to address voter fraud. The state's list of potential non-citizens began with 182,000 names but later was reduced to as few as about 200. The effort was halted before the presidential election in the wake of opposition from Florida's elections supervisors and a flurry of lawsuits.

Now you find 94(?).

How many will you purge from certain zip codes this time?

[tomder55]

now the Brennan Center also describes itself as 'nonpartisan ' . Then further on they say .....

A singular institution — part think tank, part public interest law firm, part advocacy group, part communications hub — the Brennan Center seeks meaningful, measurable change in the systems by which our nation is governed.

http://www.brennancenter.org/about
Indeed . It's named after one of the most liberal judges to ever serve in SCOTUS ,Justice William J. Brennan, Jr. and the biggest proponent of the so called 'Living Constitution'.

So you may think that the study was just some academic research ... But now you know better . The authors had a point of view and looked for "facts " to support it. Oh ;one more thing ....The price tag for the report? George Soros's Open Society Foundations gave the Brennan Center $7,466,000 from 2000 to 2010. New York University also received $2,819,540 during this same time period. That's a total of $10, 285,540.

[smoothy]

So the solution is another purge? Florida's latest voter purge bid draws criticism Now you find 94(?). How many will you purge from certain zip codes this time?

Solution is arresting the people who illegally registered to vote... toss them in jail for a few months followed by immediate deportation upon their release for those who were illegals... for those voting numerous times as citizens... a bit longer in jail followed by a permanent loss of voting privledges. And a lengthy prison sentence if they get caught a second time. THe story I quoted they found far more than 94 and it was in a single voting district...and there is zero reason to expect it is unique to just that one. Extrapolated percentage wize according to population...it could easily be over 600K illegal votes....near all of which were democrat votes. Al Frankan should not be in office ...and never should have...nor should Obama and quite a few other democrats. Because the fraud ammounts far exceede the margins they won by.

[excon]

Hello smoothy:

Solution is arresting the people who illegally registered to vote..

I'm gonna throw some real common sense at you, and you're STILL gonna deny what I say is true..

Obama is deporting illegal aliens at TWICE the rate of George W. Bush. I don't like it, but so far, he's sent 2 MILLION of 'em packing.. Now, just pretend you're ONE of them.. If you were, you really don't want ANY confrontations with local authorities. You stay AWAY from situations like that. You don't want to put yourself into a position of getting caught and sent back...

So, if you're THIS person, would you walk into a state registrars office and show whatever ID you have and demand to be registered???? No. Of COURSE, you wouldn't. Nobody would.

But, you're gonna tell me that illegals DO, and they do it in numbers that matter. Ummm, umm, ummm..

excon

[talaniman]

Now I get it. Cut fraud and make it hard for legal American's who are minorities, and young people to vote, and you guys can take your country back. Brilliant plan but we knew that was the plan. See you in court again.

[smoothy]

That's what he claims... He also claims the economy is doing great and unemployment is lower than it was under Bush. All of which are also lies. https://www.numbersusa.com/content/n...tatistics.html Sorry... but this administration hasn't been honest about anything. I can't give the benefit of the doubt to any administration as deceptive and crooked as this one has been. And before you say it....I don't blindly take any politicians word for anything. Incidently....those lies were uncovered by no less than the Washington comPost, one to the two largest lefty newpapers in the USA. Most of its employees either get wood or leave snail trails at the sound of Obamas voice or picture.

[paraclete]

time to buy a fresh box of grapes those ones you have are a little sour

[smoothy]

Hardly sour... what the Democrats are doing is trying to force feed Koolaid to the rest of us. Despite their own people discrediting "The Messiahs" outlandish lies.

[paraclete]

your press must be a little rabid over there, comes from being too close to the centres of power

[suyts]

Now you find 94(?).

How many will you purge from certain zip codes this time?

Heh, nice false choice to offer. 94 from a small sampling from a local news reporter. But, I guess if you're not for ensuring the integrity of our democratic process, you have to believe that's the only place in the US that's happening... except for the many other examples found in Ohio, NY, Texas, and anywhere one can look.

So, my question, to those who don't think this is a problem is how many fraudulent votes are acceptable to you? How many times should one be allowed to vote in the same election, like the lady in Ohio? Or, how many people can have their names fraudulently registered and voted for, as they did in NY? And, how many illegals are okay to vote and you believe we still have a proper democratic process?

For those ignorant of what happened in Florida, voter rolls were purged because of the absence of a voter ID law, which would make a purge mostly unnecessary, but wouldn't protect us from people like the lady from Virginia who voted there and then in Florida, as well, in the last presidential election. I'm sure it's a coincidence, but, of the examples I cited, all were Dem voters... the same who bitterly oppose voter ID laws... odd, isn't it?

For those who wish for the people of the US to have faith in our democratic process, the easiest way to get a voter ID law passed is to start emulating Dems. I advocate that Repubs start registering everyone in all graveyards.

As to the original post, yes, I would fully expect more Repub success if dead people, illegals, and multi-voters were prohibited from corrupting our representative democracy, as would any rational person.

[paraclete]

As to the original post, yes, I would fully expect more Repub success if dead people, illegals, and multi-voters were prohibited from corrupting our representative democracy, as would any rational person.

so your hypothesis is that only democracts are corrupt and attempt to corrupt the electoral process? is this just rhetoric(B/S) or can you give us some statistics proving that there were no illegal votes lodged for republicans?

[tomder55]

Clete regardless of who corrupts the process ,if there is fraud, the process is corrupted. There is nothing more important that the integrity of the vote. That's what's supposed to separate us from the ballot in Crimea. Voter photo id is a good start until some future date when biometric id replaces it.