[speechlesstx]

I'll tell you what, Dems are damn sure desperate. From resurrecting the war on women, to synchronized attacks on Fox News, calling Americans liars, playing the race card to this...

Obama: Some in GOP want 'segregation' for gays | Mobile Washington Examiner

The Great uniter is just another liberal a$$h... liar. And that has nothing to do him being black, half white, gay or whatever, he has no interest in making this a better place. Divide and conquer at home while taking more selfies as the world crumbles.

[speechlesstx]

Speaking of some religions being different than others, some Syrian Christians have opted for dhimmitude, which I suppose is the least painful of the 3 options, the other 2 being conversion or death.

[talaniman]

This is a despicable act by a bunch of fundamentalist extremist military groups. Totally unacceptable! They isn't even Syrians.

[speechlesstx]

Uh that would be Islamic fundamentalist extremists and it is unacceptable, but seems our regime has been fairly silent about the plight of Syrian Christians. Meanwhile in other news, an Iranian Ayatollah said "Death to America is the first option on our table," and the "State Department allowed an Islamic preacher who called for the death penalty for homosexuals" into the country for a fundraising tour, while the emperor bashed Christians for wanting to segregate gays.

And then there's this, http://freebeacon.com/iran-executes-two-for-perversion/

[smoothy]

[speechlesstx]

And today we learn a Syrian Christian is forced to convert to Islam...and then beheaded anyway. Yes but, gay marriage, war on women...

Don't watch it.

[speechlesstx]

So where is the uproar over the gay hairdresser refusing to cut the governor's hair?

Gay hair stylist drops New Mexico governor as client because she opposes same-sex marriage - NY Daily News

[excon]

Hello again, steve:

If governors were a protected class of people, and this LAWBREAKER violated her rights, I'd be UPROARIOUS.

But, they're not, so I ain't.

excon

[speechlesstx]

The governor is a minority, "Hispanic. A person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central or South American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race."

And gays are not a protected class, so try again.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

And gays are not a protected class, so try again.

In LOTS of places they are, and/or soon WILL be. The reason she was turned down was NOT because she's a minority. She was turned down because she's a governor...

But, it DOES raise interesting legal issues... Maybe, like congressman Steve King said, she's only PRETENDING to be a governor, to TRAP the gay hairdresser into REFUSING service to her, just so she can make a case against the gay hairdresser, and score a big payday. That makes SO much sense to me..

I'm willing to rethink it, though. If it can be shown that governors, as a class, NEED protecting, I'm all for it.

excon

[talaniman]

The governor is a minority, "Hispanic. A person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central or South American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race."

And gays are not a protected class, so try again.

They should be protected against Christian aggression and degradation in America.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

In LOTS of places they are, and/or soon WILL be. The reason she was turned down was NOT because she's a minority. She was turned down because she's a governor...

No, that's incorrect, and the baker did not refuse to serve gays nor did the photographers refuse to serve gays.

Refusing to Photograph a Gay Wedding Isn't Hateful - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic

In America, there is plenty of homophobia, plenty of anti-gay bigotry, and plenty of people whose antagonism to gays and lesbians is rooted in hatred. Sometimes the language of religious liberty is used to justify behavior that is anything but Christ-like. But the Slate article is implicitly trafficking in its own sort of prejudice. The working assumption is that homophobia, anti-gay bigotry, and hatred are obviously what's motivating anyone who declines to provide a service for a gay wedding.


That assumption is wrongheaded. A closer look at the photographer's case is the best place to begin. Jonathan and Elaine Huguenin lost a case before the New Mexico Supreme Court, and have now appealed the ruling. As noted in their petition to the U.S. Supreme Court, the Huguenins' photography business does serve gay and lesbian clients, just not same-sex weddings. Insofar as a photographer can distinguish between discriminating against a class of client and a type of event—there is, perhaps, a limit—their business does so: "The Huguenins gladly serve gays and lesbians—by, for example, providing them with portrait photography—whenever doing so would not require them to create expression conveying messages that conflict with their religious beliefs."
The photography business has also turned down clients other than gay and lesbian couples while citing religious objections. "They have declined requests for nude maternity pictures," their petition states, "and photographs portraying violence."


Finally, it isn't just same-sex weddings they'd be uncomfortable photographing: their petition states that they'd also refuse business capturing a polygamous marriage.


Set aside for a moment the tension here between individual liberty and non-discrimination law. Whether you think the New Mexico Supreme Court decided the case rightly or wrongly, that is separate from the question of what motivated Elaine Huguenin. I've never met the woman. None of us can look inside her heart. But her petition presents a perfectly plausible account of why she would refuse to photograph same-sex weddings for perfectly common religious reasons that have nothing to do with fear of gays, intolerance toward gays, or hatred of gay people.

The hairdresser refused to serve the governor because she does not support same sex marriage, not because she's the governor. Can you show me how cutting the governor's hair might constitute some moral wrong for the hairdresser?

How is he damaged by cutting someones hair? He isn't whatsoever, it's just a haircut. Yet you defend him for rejecting the governor because of her beliefs while demanding someone who does serve all violate their religious values by participating in something they find morally wrong? Can you force me to photograph you masturbating, or is there a line we can draw, too?

[paraclete]

They should be protected against Christian aggression and degradation in America.

How about protecting Christians from the aggression of gays, Muslims, secularists, communists every place

[Tuttyd]

No, that's incorrect, and the baker did not refuse to serve gays nor did the photographers refuse to serve gays.



The hairdresser refused to serve the governor because she does not support same sex marriage, not because she's the governor. Can you show me how cutting the governor's hair might constitute some moral wrong for the hairdresser?

Interesting enough you probably demonstrate this. Provided you use the same grounds that are being applied for in the petition to the Supreme Court.

Some interesting points to come out of the petition:

. Photography is an art form.

.Forcing people to speak is unconstitutional

.Freedom of speech is of the same type type as freedom of mind.

.Anti-discrimination legislation can't override freedom to speak or, not to speak.

[smoothy]

How about protecting Christians from the aggression of gays, Muslims, secularists, communists every place

Exactly...