[talaniman]

Trust me. Now about the breeding thing..?

[paraclete]

well tal they tell me that fat women have fewer babies so I expect control of breeding won't be a problem in either of our countries since there are a lot of overfed people. the answer appears simple; expand the food supply, the implementation; more Mcdonald's and KFC outlets, a real weapon against population growth

[talaniman]

Somebody has been telling you wrong.

[paraclete]

how so

[talaniman]

Fat people may have or will have health issues, but they can breed just as much as skinny people.

[paraclete]

My observation is that obese women have great difficulty falling pregnant but don't worry, with the march of the gays the human race will soon die out

[tomder55]

we whack our babies in the US each year at about the same rate that Hitler wacked the Jews. That's the Malthusian solution I was talking about .

[talaniman]

My observation is that obese women have great difficulty falling pregnant but don't worry, with the march of the gays the human race will soon die out

TMI, please, spare us the details of your observations... EWW! You need a better hobby.

[paraclete]

TMI, please, spare us the details of your observations... EWW! You need a better hobby.

I have a better hobby, I do this to annoy the rednecks

[smoothy]

I was never a fan of the fat ones myself. Never once thought to myself, I want to knock this beefy one up.

[paraclete]

I was never a fan of the fat ones myself. Never once thought to myself, I want to knock this beefy one up.

Yes we do get to a point where fat is unattractive

[tomder55]

Kudos doesn't get you better relations Tom, we are in two diplomatic storms now and both because we supported you. We must all assume China has weighed the risks and has decided that one aircraft carrier is enough to hold back the americans

and kudos to Tony Abbott
Tony Abbott refuses to back down over China comments

[paraclete]

and kudos to Tony Abbott
Tony Abbott refuses to back down over China comments

fact is we didn't need to say anything other than to express our concern, and only then because we have the chairmanship of the security council, we should have been speaking only in that capacity and not as a nation.

[paraclete]

Now we are intergenerationally inept or is that intergenerationally unjust?


Watch out for climate 'surprises,' scientists warn - CNN.com

the latest shot in the climate war is at the one time is saying don't expect quick change, but look out for sudden change and on the other hand saying we should be micro-measuring changes. I think I would like these guys to go beyond their research grants, stop being part of the problem and give us some real solutions

ie;
.recognise Tuvalu is going under and proactively relocate it's citizens, as a well as the many peoples who live literally at sea level.
.develop and adopt innovative technologies which move us away from carbon based fuels
.make cities energy generating instead of energy dependent, food producing instead of food dependent

so far development remains very costly in carbon based fuels to produce alternatives

[speechlesstx]

As in "our wildly inaccurate fear mongering hasn't panned out so 'surprise, hurricane - we told you so'!"

[talaniman]

Us humans are sorely unprepared for what Mother Nature brings us no matter the science, fear, or rhetoric.

Maybe spending more on preparation would be better than waiting for the inevitable rebuilding. Maybe save some lives in the process.

[smoothy]

Survival of the fittest... the people that refused to leave because they were expecting limo service in New Orleans... shoud be the first to drown... The Gulf coast would be a better place if they had. That applies everywhere.

[paraclete]

so the general consensus is we are stupid or at least some of us are. It has always been that the rich get to live in the heights and the poor in the lowlands.

The question isn't about scaremongering, even if we have had more than enough of that, but realisation the change is going to mean that nice beachfront property is undesirable and we will have to find a new mouring for the yacht

[smoothy]

so the general consensus is we are stupid or at least some of us are. It has always been that the rich get to live in the heights and the poor in the lowlands.

The question isn't about scaremongering, even if we have had more than enough of that, but realisation the change is going to mean that nice beachfront property is undesirable and we will have to find a new mouring for the yacht

You aren't stupid for living in a low lying area... some very valuable and beautiful land is in low lying areas...

Stupid people sit there and wait for someone to move them when a really bad storm is on its way. The smart ones find a way and move themselves to safety.

[paraclete]

smoothy, the point is low land areas are going to become less desirable. On Tuvalu what was beachfront is now inundated part of the time. Those people need an option which noone is offering and that is the key, not so much giving them the transport, but the options. I expect the people in New Orleans didn't move because there were no offers and the football stadium wasn't a great idea afterall