[smoothy]

The differnce is Obama has never uttered a truthful statement in his adult life yet.

[speechlesstx]

The historical problem is that some humans have less value than others though the words all men were created equal is the premise. So who lied?

Equality of opportunity is what I believe is fair. Creating winners and losers to shape society in your image is not fair.

[smearcase]

I was watching the exchange between Chao and Rep Gardner and I got the same impression that this Forbes article describes. He was asked how much more work was needed and he replied 60% to 70%, which Gardner couldn't believe he had just heard, and gave Chao several opportunities to clarify. Don't assume it is 60 to 70% done. It may actually be 30- 40% done, or less.
Medicare Deputy CIO: Somewhere Between '30-40%' Of Obamacare's Exchange Software Has Not Yet Been Built - Forbes

[paraclete]

I was watching the exchange between Chao and Rep Gardner and I got the same impression that this Forbes article describes. He was asked how much more work was needed and he replied 60% to 70%, which Gardner couldn't believe he had just heard, and gave Chao several opportunities to clarify. Don't assume it is 60 to 70% done. It may actually be 30- 40% done, or less.
Medicare Deputy CIO: Somewhere Between '30-40%' Of Obamacare's Exchange Software Has Not Yet Been Built - Forbes

Did you read the article, lots of misintrepretation there

Chao: “It’s not really about healthcare.gov; it’s the federally-faciliated marketplace…the on-line application, verification, determination, plan [comparison shopping], getting enrolled, generating the enrollment transaction—that’s 100 percent there.”

While he created the impression the site was incomplete, he was talking about back office systems, the interfaces with accounting, payment, since we haven't seen the specs we don't know what is envisaged

[smearcase]

As I indicated, I watched it live (on cspan I meant to include). he was asked how much work remained. He said 60 to 70% which I assumed was his misunderstanding of the question-- as did the questioner, who tried to get him to correct himself. But, he never did.

[paraclete]

As I indicated, I watched it live (on cspan I meant to include). he was asked how much work remained. He said 60 to 70% which I assumed was his misunderstanding of the question-- as did the questioner, who tried to get him to correct himself. But, he never did.

Yes lots of oriential inscrutiability and staying on message rather than allowing himself to be interrupted but right at the end of the transcript did he turn it around?

[speechlesstx]

Did you read the article, lots of misintrepretation there



While he created the impression the site was incomplete, he was talking about back office systems, the interfaces with accounting, payment, since we haven't seen the specs we don't know what is envisaged

You can't buy insurance if you can't pay for it.

[paraclete]

You can't buy insurance if you can't pay for it.

Yes, you need more than a registration system, although there are many ways of paying for it, even very traditional ways that web interfaces are intended to replace.

I expect that because of the size of the system they have some difficulties. perhaps they didn't have expertise in very large billing systems. I would have thought something like this was available "öff-the-rack" and could have been quickly adapted, afterall it isn't as though there aren't a myriad of insurance companies doing the same thing. But, it appears, someone decided to work it up from scratch.

[talaniman]

How many times do I have to say that there is a plan B. The old fashion way, call or go to the insurance office, or get a quote from them from their website. I get them all the time in my email. Have for YEARS. No computer? Use the phone.

Instead of those old long forms for medical history, it's a simple financial form.

[cdad]

How many times do I have to say that there is a plan B. The old fashion way, call or go to the insurance office, or get a quote from them from their website. I get them all the time in my email. Have for YEARS. No computer? Use the phone.

Instead of those old long forms for medical history, it's a simple financial form.

And it wasnt until recently that there may be a possibility of s subsidy for the insurance. But going to a single provider isnt going to be like comparison shopping. The website was suppose to do all of that and then some. So now that it is a broken pos you want people to do all the legwork. Maybe they might need an ID god forbid. Then they really can't get insurance.

[paraclete]

How many times do I have to say that there is a plan B. The old fashion way, call or go to the insurance office, or get a quote from them from their website. I get them all the time in my email. Have for YEARS. No computer? Use the phone.

Instead of those old long forms for medical history, it's a simple financial form.

Tal, there might be a Plan B or even C or D but that isn't the option been offered in the electronic, connected age where if you can't play with your telephone, forgive me, I-Pad, you are blind, deaf, dumb and stupid. We have given up knowing and doing for looking at a tiny screen

[tomder55]

tal why don't you admit it that your emperor is a screw up. (and that's the kind version of this episode giving him all the benefit of the doubt )

[talaniman]

You guys vowed to make him a one term president from day one. You Failed. You tried to stop his laws, and you FAILED! You tried to repeal his laws, and you Failed! You tried to force him to delay, You FAILED.

Admit it, you guys are failures because of Obama. All you can do now is drink and do drugs and drown in your own FAILURE! Why should we even believe failures such a yourself?

[cdad]

You guys vowed to make him a one term president from day one. You Failed. You tried to stop his laws, and you FAILED! You tried to repeal his laws, and you Failed! You tried to force him to delay, You FAILED.

Admit it, you guys are failures because of Obama. All you can do now is drink and do drugs and drown in your own FAILURE! Why should we even believe failures such a yourself?

Maybe its time to pass on that Koolaid you been drinking and come back to the real world.

[paraclete]

Maybe its time to pass on that Koolaid you been drinking and come back to the real world.

Hey dad would you like to tell us where to find that real world, because what I'm seeing ain't it

[speechlesstx]

You guys vowed to make him a one term president from day one. You Failed. You tried to stop his laws, and you FAILED! You tried to repeal his laws, and you Failed! You tried to force him to delay, You FAILED.

Admit it, you guys are failures because of Obama. All you can do now is drink and do drugs and drown in your own FAILURE! Why should we even believe failures such a yourself?

Geez, if I'd said that I'd be getting "infractions."

[paraclete]

Geez, if I'd said that I'd be getting "infractions."

is that infractions or Intractions

[speechlesstx]

P.S. In light of the current fiasco called Obamacare and his plummeting ratings I think I'd refrain from calling others a drugged and drunken failure.

[talaniman]

Really? For 5 years you have failed to even effect a credible plan that helps America, and have taken the luxury position of cherry picking the targets for your rock throwing and name calling. Like residents of the peanut gallery who heckle the home team constantly. Prez is down, but you haven't made him quit! LOL, you have gotten him down before.

Enjoy your beer and peanuts, and make all the noise you can, while you can.

[speechlesstx]

You guys are giving us much lower fruit to pick than even Bush. Heck, Oregon's exchange still hasn't signed up anyone and won't be ready until the day after the due date to have insurance coverage on Jan 1.