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Nov 5, 2013, 03:41 PM
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You couldn't help but question my sincerity? It works both ways dear.
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Nov 5, 2013, 04:15 PM
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Finally we agree on something.
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Nov 5, 2013, 06:19 PM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Finally we agree on something.
Then what's the point of this"comprehensive" insurance if you can't see a doc?
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Nov 5, 2013, 06:24 PM
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Doctors will have to see more people, train a lot more, or hand out more visas to foreign doctors and nurses. What's your idea?
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Nov 5, 2013, 06:26 PM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Doctors will have to see more people, train a lot more, or hand out more visas to foreign doctors and nurses. What's your idea?
And medical schools will have to make their education more affordable and accessible (but not slipshod).
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Nov 5, 2013, 06:41 PM
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Just what we need... more doctors that barely speak the English language.
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Nov 5, 2013, 06:52 PM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
Just what we need... more doctors that barely speak the English language.
Nope. Nice Caucasian young people. My nephew would have gone from being a male nurse into being a doctor, but couldn't afford it. He didn't make M.D., but was able to afford becoming an anesthesiologist assistant and makes good money keeping people alive on the operating table.
It's time we stop pushing the medical specialties (and big money?) and go back to family practice/GPs.
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Nov 5, 2013, 07:10 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Nope. Nice Caucasian young people. My nephew would have gone from being a male nurse into being a doctor, but couldn't afford it. He didn't make M.D., but was able to afford becoming an anesthesiologist assistant and makes good money keeping people alive on the operating table.
It's time we stop pushing the medical specialties (and big money?) and go back to family practice/GPs.
If they are coming from overseas for many of them English is not a strong point for them.
They aren't all bad... one of the specialists I see is Indian... and he's one of the top doctors in his field at least in this region.. His English is very good as well.
Most go into specialties because they make more money to pay back their substantial education loans faster. GP's don't make as much and their education costs are almost as high.
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Nov 5, 2013, 07:25 PM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
If they are coming from overseas for many of them English is not a strong point for them.
All the more reason to include good literacy programs. Old people especially have no patience with doctors who can't speak English very well.
They aren't all bad... one of the specialists I see is Indian... and he's one of the top doctors in his field at least in this region.. His English is very good as well.
Most of the Chinese and Indian doctors I've encountered during the past ten years speak better English than I do.
Most go into specialties because they make more money to pay back their substantial education loans faster. GP's don't make as much and their education costs are almost as high.
All the more reason for medical schools to become affordable. Do they really need all those deans and vice presidents?
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Nov 5, 2013, 08:02 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
All the more reason to include good literacy programs. Old people especially have no patience with doctors who can't speak English very well.
that's something they need to deal with in their home countries. I have a knack for dealing with people with broken English or some accents (sorry but I have problems with certain Central American accents or Puerto Rican accents... in English OR Spanish.)
 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Most of the Chinese and Indian doctors I've encountered during the past ten years speak better English than I do.
I don't know any Chinese doctors, there is a Korean one at the practice my GP is in, saw him when my regular doctor was on vacation and it couldn't wait...He was good in my mind.. My last two dentists were Iranian strangely enough. Different practices. Both spoke excellent English. Actually the last one is still a current one...
 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
All the more reason for medical schools to become affordable. Do they really need all those deans and vice presidents?
Or Deans or Presidents making well over a million a year with lavish houses paid for by the school. Lots of fat to be cut in Universities...
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Nov 6, 2013, 01:01 AM
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 Originally Posted by smoothy
that's something they need to deal with in their home countries. I have a knack for dealing with people with broken English or some accents (sorry but I have problems with certain Central American accents or Puerto Rican accents... in English OR Spanish.)
I don't know any Chinese doctors, there is a Korean one at the practice my GP is in, saw him when my regular doctor was on vacation and it couldn't wait...He was good in my mind.. My last two dentists were Iranian strangely enough. Different practices. Both spoke excellent English. Actually the last one is still a current one...
Or Deans or Presidents making well over a million a year with lavish houses paid for by the school. Lots of fat to be cut in Universities...
So you are getting lots of foreign doctors it will only get worse when they become the only ones who will work for less.itI seems english isn't essential here, I expect it isn't there either but don't worry chinese doctors understand english
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Nov 6, 2013, 03:49 AM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Doctors will have to see more people, train a lot more, or hand out more visas to foreign doctors and nurses. What's your idea?
They already have to see more patients than optimum to keep their practices in operation... Let's cut the bs. What the left wants is to have all doctors employed by the state .
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Nov 6, 2013, 04:26 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
They already have to see more patients than optimum to keep their practices in operation... Let's cut the bs. What the left wants is to have all doctors employed by the state .
Highly undesirable idea, free enterprise in medicine is fine s long as gouging isn't allowed , that's all the state should be concerned with other than competence
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Nov 6, 2013, 05:03 AM
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Free enterprise? That might lead to profits and we can't have that.
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Nov 6, 2013, 05:29 AM
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Nov 6, 2013, 05:50 AM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
So you are getting lots of foreign doctors it will only get worse when they become the only ones who will work for less.itI seems english isn't essential here, I expect it isn't there either but don't worry chinese doctors understand english
What I do is question the quality of their educations...(not CHinese doctors specifically but the others as well) Basically schools nobody knows about.....etc.
How do you know they weren't run out of their home countries for being bad doctors for example? How you you really vet them? It's a potiential mine field.
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Nov 6, 2013, 07:15 AM
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Hello again,
I'm missing something here... EVERYBODY seems to agree that the Cuccinelli race was a referendum on Obamacare. Tom said as much yesterday. Cuccinelli said it this morning his concession speech... . He said his loss by a teeny teeny bit sends a BIG message to Washington, D.C.
I AGREE with him. He LOST. Just like ROMNEY lost. What message does his LOSS send to YOU - that the stuff he FAVORED was BLESSED by the electorate????? I'll bet you DO believe that... You guys keep telling us that Romney's LOSS meant the country DIDN'T want Obamacare... What's different here?
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Nov 6, 2013, 07:37 AM
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I explained his loss in greater detail on this comment .
Ask Me Help Desk - View Single Post - Tea Party aversion to reality
Had the 3rd party candidate not peeled the vote from Cuccunelli ,he would've won a close race. I also later explained how northern Va. has become a bastion of people who make their living off the Fed Gvt . This has turned Va from a red state to a purple one at best .
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