[speechlesstx]

Now you are blaming Bush in 1992?

No way can one logically come to that conclusion.

[speechlesstx]

Now the most transparent President ever is flat out lying about his lie.

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[excon]

Hello again,

Yes, the rollout has been flawed, and Obama is the guy in charge. But, that's the rollout, and the president.. It's NOT the law. The LAW is gonna work just fine. Yes, there's gonna be some bumps and bruises along the way. But, not every bump is a TRAINWRECK.

Obamacare REQUIRES that insurance companies, for example, spend 80% of its income on claims... Let's say that you own a policy with a company that spends, say 50% of its income on claims.

(1) Why would you WANT to keep it, and (2) why would you THINK the law would let you??

If I were talking to people who WANTED to fix it, I'd expect a rational response.. But, since I'm talking to people who want to KILL it, (3) I'm sure you're gonna run around with your hair on fire..

excon

[smoothy]

Flawed is the understatement of the century.

Hopelessly broken is a better definition.

[talaniman]

We were lied to by one of our own in 1992 . GHW Bush made a very clear promise to not raise taxes . He lied . Because of that ,his base either did not show up ,or voted for Ross Perot . Had he kept his promise ,Bush would've had a 2nd term.Clearly Tal and the Obots support the emperor's deception.

Just going by what Tom said. Bush lied, even though the previous supply side president was flexible enough to raise taxes when needed to cover his spending. That flexibility was not afforded to Bush one, and got you guys out of the WH.

Now you guys are hollering liar to a promise by Obama that's 97% accurate, and trotting out horror stories of the 3% who have sticker shock and can't keep their plans because of insurance company policy, and state legislatures, even though it's well documented that those that cannot keep those plans have better options than they had before.

But you guys have never been known to look deeper into things BEFORE you holler foul. If you did you would find that the lady in California will be getting into a bigger and better network of doctors going on the exchange than she had with her small carrier that withdrew from the private insurance market in California.

I hope they report her solution as fast as they hollered about her distress.

[smoothy]

Just going by what Tom said. Bush lied, even though the previous supply side president was flexible enough to raise taxes when needed to cover his spending. That flexibility was not afforded to Bush one, and got you guys out of the WH.

Now you guys are hollering liar to a promise by Obama that's 97% accurate, and trotting out horror stories of the 3% who have sticker shock and can't keep their plans because of insurance company policy, and state legislatures, even though it's well documented that those that cannot keep those plans have better options than they had before.

But you guys have never been known to look deeper into things BEFORE you holler foul. If you did you would find that the lady in California will be getting into a bigger and better network of doctors going on the exchange than she had with her small carrier that withdrew from the private insurance market in California.

I hope they report her solution as fast as they hollered about her distress.

Obamas clain is 0% accurate... just like everything else the brown messiah spews out of his facial sphincter.

[speechlesstx]

Just going by what Tom said. Bush lied, even though the previous supply side president was flexible enough to raise taxes when needed to cover his spending. That flexibility was not afforded to Bush one, and got you guys out of the WH.

Now you guys are hollering liar to a promise by Obama that's 97% accurate, and trotting out horror stories of the 3% who have sticker shock and can't keep their plans because of insurance company policy, and state legislatures, even though it's well documented that those that cannot keep those plans have better options than they had before.

But you guys have never been known to look deeper into things BEFORE you holler foul. If you did you would find that the lady in California will be getting into a bigger and better network of doctors going on the exchange than she had with her small carrier that withdrew from the private insurance market in California.

I hope they report her solution as fast as they hollered about her distress.

Quit trying to spin tom's post. The point was Bush faced consequences for breaking his promise. You guys support this man's habitual lies and broken promises.

[talaniman]

You are just mad because we don't support what you are hollering about. Everybody is running from you. Your lie we run from is when you say most Americans agree with you. That's a whopper.

You guys may think you are a good option, or alternative, but truth is you are not.

[smoothy]

You are just mad because we don't support what you are hollering about. Everybody is running from you. Your lie we run from is when you say most Americans agree with you. That's a whopper.

You guys may think you are a good option, or alternative, but truth is you are not.

Polls prove otherwise. And Obama anObamacare approval ratings keep sinking by the day.

[excon]

Hello again,

I just heard Rubio saying that the Va. Governors race is a CLEAR choice between Obamacare, and the FIRST Attorney General in the nation to OPPOSE it.

Wow. Do you guy wanna go down this road again? I dunno WHY you'd wanna put Obamacare up for a vote. You KNOW that Cuccineli is gonna lose, and you KNOW that you'll disavow what Rubio said about it.

I KNOW it, if you don't.

excon

[speechlesstx]

You are just mad because we don't support what you are hollering about. Everybody is running from you. Your lie we run from is when you say most Americans agree with you. That's a whopper.

You guys may think you are a good option, or alternative, but truth is you are not.

Give it a rest, you're panicking at the reality unfolding and desperately looking for more bullsh*t spin to cover for what Americans now see. You also ignore the fact that regulation was one of the prime factors in denying Americans insurance in the first place.

The government, both federal and state has had its hands all over our health care and health insurance for ages, and yet you pretend it's all these crappy insurance providers to blame for the mess. Now the government footprint is even larger and so far, it isn't panning out too well. Americans are not stupid, Tal, they aren't buying the propaganda and they don't want to buy your high priced, half-a$$ed policies either.

[smoothy]

Definition of Obamacare

Remember when Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare:
“We have to pass it, to find out what's in it”


A physician called into a radio show and said:
"That's the definition of a stool sample".

That pretty well sums it up.

[talaniman]

You love regulations on females health care in Texas. You love regulations on poor people and you hate regulations on rich people forgetting that one in four people in our own state have NO insurance, and you guys are still against really poor people ever getting it.

Maybe its time for cutting out the middle man and making everyone have the same insurance and the same premiums and benefits. All of our institutions need a major overhaul is my position. Insurance companies are NOT gods, so why do you worship them over the people who have suffered for decades with their BAD business practices.

[tomder55]

Your arguing for a policy that is not being seriously advanced anywhere .Even in Europe they realize that it aint sustainable . That's why your emperor tried incremental approach . With the disaster that is the law they passed however ,you will never see your utopian fanasy realized .

[speechlesstx]

Who in God's name is worshiping insurance companies? I hate insurance companies, what I hate more is government screwing it up further, the president lying to me and treating us like we're idiots and the endless bullsh* from his defenders.

Again, you're going in panic mode just like the White House, hence the latest lie about his first lie. And you haven't even begun to see fallout yet, buddy. Just wait until more people buy their new super duper plan and realize they can't keep their doctor.

From CNN:

Obamacare 'War Room' docs: We're concerned next media story is some consumers getting on website and finding fewer options, higher prices
By CNN Chief Washington Correspondent Jake Tapper

Washington (CNN) - Officials expressed concern that the next shoe to drop in the evolving story about the Affordable Care Act would be disappointment from consumers once they are able to get on the troubled HealthCare.gov website – disappointment because of sticker shock and limited choice, according to a new document obtained by CNN.

“Mike described a general concern of PM (plan management team): getting to the point where the website is functioning properly and individuals begin to select plans; the media attention will follow individuals to plan selection and their ultimate choices; and, in some cases, there will be fewer options than would be desired to promote consumer choice and an ideal shopping experience. Additionally, in some cases there will be relatively high cost plans,” say the notes from the Obama administration’s Obamacare 'War Room' from one week ago.

I guess you really, really smart people should have considered this before ramming it down our throats.

[talaniman]

Your arguing for a policy that is not being seriously advanced anywhere .Even in Europe they realize that it aint sustainable . That's why your emperor tried incremental approach . With the disaster that is the law they passed however ,you will never see your utopian fantasy realized .

Probably not Tom, but I blame the broken economic model more than band aid policies that react to those flaws. Poor circulation is the prognosis for whatever the underlying cause. There are no quick fixes to a systemic global problem.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

ramming it down our throats.

Ramming? Nahhh. It's not ramming if we LIKE it.

excon

[talaniman]

Who in God's name is worshiping insurance companies? I hate insurance companies, what I hate more is government screwing it up further, the president lying to me and treating us like we're idiots and the endless bullsh* from his defenders.

Again, you're going in panic mode just like the White House, hence the latest lie about his first lie. And you haven't even begun to see fallout yet, buddy. Just wait until more people buy their new super duper plan and realize they can't keep their doctor.

From CNN:



I guess you really, really smart people should have considered this before ramming it down our throats.

You hate everything so what's new? Your solution to destroy and not replace, but keep what didn't work, ain't a solution. Bet you would have hollered as vigorously against SS, and Medicare too if you were old enough.

[speechlesstx]

You hate everything so what's new? Your solution to destroy and not replace, but keep what didn't work, ain't a solution. Bet you would have hollered as vigorously against SS, and Medicare too if you were old enough.

Still waiting for the day you actually argue the points instead of spewing spewing the same rehearsed (and untrue) bullsh*t.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:
Ramming? Nahhh. It's not ramming if we LIKE it.

excon

Thank you Mr. Orwell.