[talaniman]

Prediction from experience by April the bugs will be eliminated, and we start getting better data and clearer results.

No delays are foreseen at this time.

[speechlesstx]

Unbelievable...



So, we didn't want it, didn't vote for it, it was outsourced to Obama donors and former campaign staffers without giving it even a halfway reasonable testing and Republicans blew the Obamacare launch?

You have got to be effing kidding me.

[NeedKarma]

They are pundits, it's an opinion show - what part of that don't you get?

[tomder55]

Prediction from experience by April the bugs will be eliminated, and we start getting better data and clearer results.

No delays are foreseen at this time.

Healthcare.gov website may be more or less operational in a few months ,but that is just the tip of the iceberg compared to all the faulty data the insurance carriers are getting . Wait to you hear the collective howls from the multitudes who are getting bad insurance quotes .

Affirming what health industry consultant Bob Laszewski has written, my source said that insurers have received a relatively small trickle of enrollments through the federal website, but they are seeing problems.

Duplicate enrollments are a recurring issue. This means that the insurer is notified that somebody has enrolled in an insurance policy through the government exchange, but then receives another notice that the same person has un-enrolled, followed still later by another one that they re-enrolled, and so on.

As of now, it's unclear whether this duplication problem is triggered by a failure in the way Healthcare.gov interacts with the systems of insurers, or if shoppers on the federal exchange are enrolling and un-enrolling themselves as they go through the selection process. Insurers can't ascertain the ultimate choice of the shopper because there are no time stamps attached to transactions on the site.

Other potential challenges involve whether the website will be able to properly communicate with a massive federal data hub to verify applicants' income accurately, calculate subsidies they may be entitled to under the law, and display the correct plan price.

There's also a question of whether the federal website is properly displaying information about plan deductibles, co-payments, and benefits.

Administration officials have emphasized that Americans have until the end of next March to purchase health plans through the exchanges.

But insurers are focused on a much earlier date: Jan. 1. That's when the insurance plans will start to become active. The nightmare scenario for insurers would be if, at the beginning of the new year, they are bombarded by complaints from consumers who, based on information displayed on the federal website, were expecting a certain set of benefits that don't correspond to the plans to which they signed up.

This doesn't even get to the broader health policy issue. The success of Obamacare hinges on the exchanges being able to enroll enough young and healthy individuals to offset the cost of covering older and sicker patients, particularly those with pre-existing conditions.

Given that Americans with higher medical costs are more likely to endure an arduous enrollment process than healthier individuals, sustained technological problems could be devastating to the program.

Behind the curtain, more waving red flags for Obamacare | WashingtonExaminer.com
That should keep all those IRS agents they hired to adminster the national health care system busy . (does something sound wrong with that? )

[paraclete]

Well Tom it's going to be back to manual systems to meet deadlines, that will mean using people instead of computers. Technology has failed again

[J_9]

that will mean using people instead of computers. Technology has failed again

So, hiring people to do this manually is a bad thing?

[Wondergirl]

So, hiring people to do this manually is a bad thing?

Job creation. Like we used to do things with pen and paper.

[J_9]

Job creation. Like we used to do things with pen and paper.

Yeah, I get that. That was my point.

[Wondergirl]

Yeah, I get that. That was my point.

I know, but wanted to drive the point home.

[tomder55]

Nope that is not a solution. A system as large as the one being implemented cannot run with a system that could not manage a small medical practice today. Electronic management of data is here to stay.
There are thousands of people administering the VA system. What we are learning (and probably instinctively knew) is that the privacy of the patient is compromised with large bureaucracies .Imagine the exponential increases in occurrences in the national healthcare system being crafted .
Last week, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review published a detailed analysis of all VA breaches from 2010 to May 31, 2013. It tallied more than 14,000 privacy violations o at 167 VA facilities affecting more than 101,000 veterans and 551 VA employees .
Privacy breaches in VA health records wound veterans | TribLIVE

There was a complete lack of accountability with only 1 in 365 privacy violations being reported to VA's Office of Inspector General .



That's a lot of breaches affecting a lot of individuals. And that's not good.

The Tribune-Review also reports that in some of the worst cases, photos of the anatomy of some victims were posted on social media and stolen IDs were used for fraudulent credit cards.

[paraclete]

Nope that is not a solution. A system as large as the one being implemented cannot run with a system that could not manage a small medical practice today. Electronic management of data is here to stay.
There are thousands of people administering the VA system. What we are learning (and probably instinctively knew) is that the privacy of the patient is compromised with large bureaucracies .Imagine the exponential increases in occurrences in the national healthcare system being crafted .
Last week, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review published a detailed analysis of all VA breaches from 2010 to May 31, 2013. It tallied more than 14,000 privacy violations o at 167 VA facilities affecting more than 101,000 veterans and 551 VA employees .
Privacy breaches in VA health records wound veterans | TribLIVE

There was a complete lack of accountability with only 1 in 365 privacy violations being reported to VA's Office of Inspector General .



That's a lot of breaches affecting a lot of individuals. And that's not good.

The Tribune-Review also reports that in some of the worst cases, photos of the anatomy of some victims were posted on social media and stolen IDs were used for fraudulent credit cards.

You see J9 Tom doesn't think it is a good idea, anything rational is outside his purvue, which of course is to dump buckets of... on BO and the Democrats for being stupid enough to think that a form of universal health care might actually work in that glorious utopia of equality and fairness. I think we should ask, was the software contract given to Bangalore, because to write software you actually have to know what it is you are doing before you start. Not an Indian traint, but never the less

And as to breaches in privacy, if the government doesn't respect privacy in one place why would they respect it anywhereelse, definitely living in fantacyland

[tomder55]

think we should ask, was the software contract given to Bangalore,

The Obots gave a no bid contract to cronies who were fired for doing shoddy work in Canada .

because to write software you actually have to know what it is you are doing before you start. Not an Indian traint, but never the less

Showing your racism again I see. Maybe the Obots should've hired an Australian for the task... someone like Julian Assange perhaps.

[speechlesstx]

Noted obamacare supporter Ezra Klein raised a good point, since glitchapalooza is feeding bad data all around, what happens if you thought you'd purchased your mandated coverage and it turns out when you need it you don't actually have it?

Klein: Obamacare Glitches Could Constitute a ‘Betrayal of Faith’ | Washington Free Beacon

[paraclete]

The Obots gave a no bid contract to cronies who were fired for doing shoddy work in Canada .


Showing your racism again I see. Maybe the Obots should've hired an Australian for the task... someone like Julian Assange perhaps.

No Tom they should have hired me then they would have go a quality product. I took a look at the product before the deadline. Maybe I was lucky but it didn't fall over on me. I suspect the problem lies in scaling it up for large scale similtaneous usage as well as people gaming the system. As to racism, call it experience. The experience of an Indian in India has little relevance to the way business operates in the western world and you say poor work was done in Canada, there is a large south asian population in Canada.

You don't like Julian Assange because he has exposed you for what you are, get over it

[excon]

Hello again,

My friends on the right wonder why I don't believe the hundreds of stories, and the thousands of interviews with millions of people who are going to get HURT with Obamacare.

The reason is the Fox News lie machine. To wit: Hannity had some couples on his show to talk about the dreaded Obamacare... But, upon checking their stories, it turns out Hannity is a LIAR. Here's a short exerpt:

First I spoke with Paul Cox of Leicester, N.C. He and his wife Michelle had lamented to Hannity that because of Obamacare, they can't grow their construction business and they have kept their employees below a certain number of hours, so that they are part-timers.

Obamacare has no effect on businesses with 49 employees or less. But in our brief conversation on the phone, Paul revealed that he has only four employees. Why the cutback on his workforce? “Well,” he said, “I haven't been forced to do so, it's just that I've chosen to do so. I have to deal with increased costs.” What costs? And how, I asked him, is any of it due to Obamacare? There was a long pause, after which he said he'd call me back. He never did.

There is only one Obamacare requirement that applies to a company of this size: workers must be notified of the existence of the “healthcare.gov” website, the insurance exchange. That's all.

The other two stories are equally FALSE.

excon

[talaniman]

This forum, and the rest of the sight has glitches from time to time and takes a while to get them fixed. So does your cable, the retail sights, and the whole freakin' internet.

Start ups are expensive, ask Silicon Valley, maintenance is too. So why beeyatch about the baby not being able to walk or hold down a job after the doctor slaps him on the A$$ at birth? You better stock up on diapers and butt wipes while they eat, sleep, and crap up the place for a year or two. On there time not yours.

The right is quick to beeyatch, but slow to adjust, and plain lousy at counting anything. I mean shutting down the government sure didn't help anything did it?

[tomder55]

Why beeyatch ? You must be kidding.The nation is invested in this boondoggle .
And yet they launched a massive web site without beta testing it. And mind you ,the web site snafus is probably the least of the disasters that will befall on us over this ill conceived national power grab,

[paraclete]

Why beeyatch ? You must be kidding.The nation is invested in this boondoggle .
And yet they launched a massive web site without beta testing it. And mind you ,the web site snafus is probably the least of the disasters that will befall on us over this ill conceived national power grab,

There it is, the ACA is a boondoggle, and of course the access website is a boondoggle despite the suggestion the contractor is in Canada. I had the idea Tom that a boondoggle was unnecessary expenditure that benefited a small group or region for political purposes, and yet, this is intended to benefit millions across the entire nation. I expect boondoggles in the land of boondoggles have grown since I first heard the term. So let's see, is the national debt a boondoggle? is the border fence a boondoggle? Perhaps the Department of Homeland Security is a boondoggle? I know where the greatest boondoggle of all is. It is the Capital building wherein are located the greatest collection of useless politicians on Earth

[talaniman]

There testing it now. By the time you Sarah and Ted get back from your Grand Canyon tour, and count some junk tanks we should be good to go.

Okay I'll confess we just want to see if we can hear the echo around the world and watch you guys run right of each other.

[tomder55]

You go on line before you beta test ? Your fired !

Expert: Obamacare Website Is 'Not Even Ready For Beta Testing' « CBS New York