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    #141

    Oct 7, 2013, 07:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I'm never outraged by trying to rein in government spending, why aren't you? Never mind, you think government is the solution to everything and don't care how much you take from me to do it. You're content with raping and pillaging hardworking taxpayers to accomplish your political agenda.

    I'm not, and I see nothing moral about your ways, just as in this shutdown - intentionally inflicting pain on the people you claim to champion, vets, children, small business owners and you have no shame about it. The latest unnecessary farce in the shutdown charade? Amber Alert.
    Still pushing that lie that its dems who shut the government down huh? Just because we don't just give in to your demands? Your demands were stupid to begin with and saves nothing, but will cost plenty.
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    #142

    Oct 7, 2013, 07:23 AM
    P.S. While you're still spinning your Republican's denying health care to poor people yarn, why does the Spite House hate kids, vets, small business owners and now seniors?

    Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They’ve been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn’t an option.

    The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they’ve owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out. …

    Joyce Spencer said she’s all right in the meantime, staying with nearby family, but the move was a lot to handle as a senior citizen.

    “I had to be sure and get his walker and his scooter that he has to go in,” Spencer said. “We’re not hurt in any way except it might cost me if I have to go buy more pants.”
    Stop the charade, Tal - the emperor is just mean and nasty now and you know Republicans are not the ones that have ruled out a compromise and refuse to negotiate. We're not stupid.
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    #143

    Oct 7, 2013, 07:32 AM
    From the article:
    The Lake Mead properties are considered vacation homes [on federal land]; one of the lease requirements to own a plot is people must have an alternative residence.
    No story here folks, just more misinformation.
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    #144

    Oct 7, 2013, 07:32 AM
    Compromise on a 60 day funding bill? I don't think so.
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    #145

    Oct 7, 2013, 07:37 AM
    The best for live updates is NFL.com fantasy leagues.
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    #146

    Oct 7, 2013, 07:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    From the article:

    No story here folks, just more misinformation.
    Apparently it's not something they've bothered to enforce at least since the 70s, but at least we know you hate seniors, too and think it's fine to kick people out the home they OWN out of spite.

    The Stewart's Point home sits on federal land, so even though the Spencers own their cabin outright, they're not allowed in until the government reopens.
    You're just as petty as the emperor.
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    #147

    Oct 7, 2013, 07:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Compromise on a 60 day funding bill? I don't think so.
    For the misinformed... there has always been compromises in funding the government... the emperor's dicatates and Senate obstructionism not withstanding .
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    #148

    Oct 7, 2013, 07:46 AM
    You're just as petty as the emperor.
    Bless you.
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    #149

    Oct 7, 2013, 07:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    for the misinformed... there has always been compromises in funding the government... the emperor's dicatates and Senate obstructionism not withstanding .
    The regime's word for the House not giving them everything they want is "unprecedented." Sorry, but what's unprecedented is the dishonesty of this regime.

    “Despite these stakes, the president is refusing to negotiate,” Wallace said. He noted that previous votes to raise the debt ceiling have included campaign finance reform, school prayer, and a nuclear freeze. “What’s unprecedented is not Congress tying strings; what’s unprecedented is a president refusing to negotiate.”

    “Frankly, I think your history is wrong,” Lew said. “If you look at the cases where the debt limit was involved, there were many other things attached to the debt limit, but the question of threatening to cause a default of the United States, not until 2011 did it become a positive agenda—”

    “With all due respect, your history is wrong,” Wallace responded.

    This has happened over and over again, and presidents have negotiated…In 1997 you were deputy director the OMB when the debt limit was tied to measures to balance the budget. If it was good enough for Bill Clinton to sit down with the House Speaker, why is not good enough for Barack Obama?”

    “The president wants to negotiate,” Lew said. “The president has taken many steps over the last several years to show his willingness to negotiate. He’s done it with Democrats saying he’s too eager to negotiate! Republicans have not come forward and made comparable movement. If we were in a place a year ago or two years ago, when everything was on the table, where entitlement reform and tax reform were equally on the table, we wouldn’t be where we are now.”

    “I take away from this conversation that even though Republicans are willing to talk about a debt deal, it’s the president who’s digging his feet in the ground,” Wallace finished. “It sounds like you want unconditional surrender and nothing else!”
    That's exactly what he wants.
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    #150

    Oct 7, 2013, 08:19 AM
    That's not the only thing you can take from those comments, because its clear your delaying tactics from this past spring has come back to bite you guys in the arse.

    You missed 8 months diddle d1cking around, and now you want to get serious? Its not like you had other things to do of any substance.
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    #151

    Oct 7, 2013, 08:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    That's not the only thing you can take from those comments, because its clear your delaying tactics from this past spring has come back to bite you guys in the arse.

    You missed 8 months diddle d1cking around, and now you want to get serious? Its not like you had other things to do of any substance.
    You mean the scarequester - which Obama supported - then promplty went about being petty and mean by banning school kids from touring the Spite House and such? Yeah I remember that, shame yours is fuzzy.



    And what exactly was the president's agenda for the year? And you want to talk about the House "diddle d1cking around"? Get real Tal, we're not stupid and you still have an aversion to reality.
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    #152

    Oct 7, 2013, 09:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    From the article:

    No story here folks, just more misinformation.
    Since I hear this all the time... got any reliable links to prove that claim?

    Here is proof you are wrong.

    http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/Lake-....html?lc=Smart
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    #153

    Oct 7, 2013, 09:16 AM
    Seems the Spite House is realizing again their shutdown charade of dishonesty, fear mongering and inflicting pain has backfired.

    After Bad Press and Confusion, Justice Department Restores Federal Amber Alert Website

    It also seems the Spite House just blinked on their debt-ceiling dictates.

    White House official says Obama would accept short-term agreement on debt ceiling
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    #154

    Oct 7, 2013, 09:32 AM
    He can have it his way if he would just champion the 'Full Faith and Credit Act '. There are even provisions in the law for the executive to temporarily go over the debt limit in emrgencies.
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    Oct 7, 2013, 10:05 AM
    http://white%20house%20official%20sa...ebt%20ceiling/

    "This page cannot be displayed"

    He can have it his way if he would just champion the 'Full Faith and Credit Act '. There are even provisions in the law for the executive to temporarily go over the debt limit in emrgencies.
    Which bill did you mean as the only one passed and ratified is the one in the Constitution

    Full Faith and Credit Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    #156

    Oct 7, 2013, 10:11 AM
    You could make a liar of Obama by just putting a vote in the house of the clean CR bill passed by the Senate. Or prove Bonehead is a liar by saying there are not enough votes to pass it.
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    #157

    Oct 7, 2013, 10:28 AM
    They should NOT present any "clean" CR just for the fact of how RUDE both Reid and Obama have been... who died and named either of them God of all they survey?

    Someone gets rude with me and hell will freeze over before I do what theyu were demanding.
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    #158

    Oct 7, 2013, 10:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    http://white%20house%20official%20sa...ebt%20ceiling/

    "This page cannot be displayed"



    Which bill did you mean as the only one passed and ratified is the one in the Constitution

    Full Faith and Credit Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I thought I was clear . The 'full faith and credit act '. The clause in the constitution is a different issue regarding Federalism .
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    #159

    Oct 7, 2013, 10:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoother
    got any reliable links to prove that claim?
    Go read my post again... most adults will get what you missed.
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    #160

    Oct 7, 2013, 10:38 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You could make a liar of Obama by just putting a vote in the house of the clean CR bill passed by the Senate. Or prove Bonehead is a liar by saying there are not enough votes to pass it.
    Obama proved himself to be a liar in the Youtube video I just posted, and to you guys a "clean CR" = unconditional surrender.

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