[J_9]

Well, it AIN'T an amendment, but if it was, I'd vote for it.

Looking back it is a PROPOSED amendment. It should be an amendment. The adage comes into play... "What is good for the goose is good for the gander." If it's not good enough for the house, senate, president, etc. it's not good enough for the common person.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:
If they'd do that, they'd put death panels in there...

You're silly.

excon

It's true, I'm just the messenger.

[talaniman]

Single payer for all regardless of who. Sounds unanimous to me.

[J_9]

I have a question. I don't want sources quoted, if possible.

With these cutbacks, if you or a loved one were hospitalized, how would you expect the care given to them. Now, remember that we are being cut back, as is the government. I am given 7 patients to care for versus the 4 patients before. I can't answer the call lights as quickly, nor can I give the medications as directed. I am over worked and underpaid.

Would you complain? If so, to whom?

If your loved one died because I was expected to care for more patients than I am capable of, would you blame me or would you blame the system? Would you sue? Would you make me lose my license because I am conforming to the new system?

I reiterate that those of you outside of the medical community expect more than what we are capable of under the ACA. We are going to see a drop in the applications of medical students. Our nursing is already saturated. Vanderbilt has just let go of 1,000 necessary personnel.

Rather than seeing a higher number of health benefits, as a nurse, I see a higher number of medical malpractice cases.

I'm not saying that the ACA is wrong, per se, I'm seeing that it hasn't been tried out. There are positives to it, but there are negatives as well. Why not give certain states the option to try it out and see how well it works? Tweek it where it is needed. Give the general population a voice as to how it works and how it doesn't. This would take time, but it would be well worth it.

[talaniman]

The ACA was modeled after the successful experiments of the states, Massachuessetts, and the other ones who had exchange programs of their own, some very good and have transitioned easily so far, and some bad ones that will get kicked to the curb. Every state has a guideline to build on and tweak.

I also think we recognize that more trained bodies are needed, but there are also millions of unemployed. And yes it will take time, that's a given and it's unreasonable to expect instant success. You are right, the public will indeed judge the results of THIS program in due time, and tweak as necessary.

Would you complain? If so, to whom?

If you answer to the boss as an individual, he fires you if you cannot perform his instruction, dumb or unreasonable as you think they are, but as a collective group that sticks together, you have a lot more leverage. No nurses union?

[smoothy]

Speaking as someone who is a consumer of Healthcare... I don't want someone that couldn't get a real job anywhere else... playing doctor... nurse... or anything else.

Not everyone has the mindset.. intelligence or the aptitude to be working in the medical field. Heck... not even all the Doctors that actually manage to graduate from medical school should be practicing.

[smoothy]

You just can't make this s**t up... Does anyone actually THINK in the Democrat party?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/ne...ional-hotline/

[talaniman]

You just can't make this s**t up....Does anyone actually THINK in the Democrat party?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/ne...ional-hotline/

Yes you guys CAN make this crap up. I've seen you do it many times and have to admit you are damn good at it.

[smoothy]

Yes you guys CAN make this crap up. I've seen you do it many times and have to admit you are damn good at it.

Really... try calling it then... it really does go there. A Coworker just tried it and that IS where it goes.

That means an Obama administration person did it... not some Republican...

[NeedKarma]

Did you know 'smoothy' is an anagram of 'homo sty'?

[paraclete]

Amazing where your mind goes do you know an anagram of your name includes the word nerd

[smoothy]

Did you know 'smoothy' is an anagram of 'homo sty'?

Ever notice that "Need Karma" literally means you want something bad to happen to you?

[Wondergirl]

Ever notice that "Need Karma" literally means you want something bad to happen to you?

Or something good.

[speechlesstx]

Obamacare quote of the day, "I was laughing at Boehner -- until the mail came today."

But people with no pre-existing conditions like Vinson, a 60-year-old retired teacher, and Waschura, a 52-year-old self-employed engineer, are making up the difference.

"I was laughing at Boehner -- until the mail came today,"

"I really don't like the Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this. When you take $10,000 out of my family's pocket each year, that's otherwise disposable income or retirement savings that will not be going into our local economy[/B]."

Ya think? Apparently forcing someone to cough up an extra 10 grand every year is no big deal to all those wealthy libs. So much for enjoying the fruits of one's labor in America.

[smoothy]

There has never existed a more compelling reason to work off the books than there is now.

[speechlesstx]

I hear Maryland managed to sign up 326 people so far, woo hoo! I wonder though, are they really signed up?

Insurers Getting Faulty Data From U.S. Health Exchanges

Insurers are getting faulty and incomplete data from the new U.S.-run health exchange, which may mean some Americans won’t be covered even after they sign up for an insurance plan.

While it’s not clear how widespread the problem is, the reports from industry consultants are the first hint that the technical troubles faced by consumers trying to enroll in health plans under the Affordable Care Act may also be hitting the insurers. The companies are receiving electronic files that can’t open or have so much missing information on new enrollees they’re unusable, the consultants said.

Some insurers have been forced to fix entries by hand, said Bob Laszewski, an insurance-industry consultant based in Arlington, Virginia.

“If we don’t see substantial improvement by the end of this week, then I would throw up the yellow flag,” said Dan Schuyler, a consultant advising states and insurers on the exchanges. “If we don’t see it in the next two to three weeks, it’s time for red flags. The concern is some people could get to Jan. 1, and not have coverage.”

Since the exchanges opened on Oct. 1, consumers have struggled to access the online marketplaces, which have been overwhelmed by millions of visitors.

While capacity was added this past weekend to a system meant to serve people in 36 states, the federal website continued yesterday to deliver error messages to potential customers trying to create accounts and shop for health plans.

State Exchanges

At the same time, most of the 14 state exchanges yesterday reported performing with fewer troubles.

[talaniman]

Maybe they should hire more people from Amazon. Maybe the insurance companies will need more techs. Maybe the states need more techs.

Some states seem better than others working their glitches out.

AFFORDABLE CARE ACT: Program offers six-month enrollment | Amarillo Globe-News

[smoothy]

That's one way to run up costs and prices even higher than they already are... a few hundred thousand more people to pay.

At what point woud there be fewer people NOT working for Obamacare than actually are?

[tomder55]

Maybe they should hire more people from Amazon. Maybe the insurance companies will need more techs. Maybe the states need more techs.

Some states seem better than others working their glitches out.

AFFORDABLE CARE ACT: Program offers six-month enrollment | Amarillo Globe-News

They already spent a fortune of our tax money to program this dog already . But by all appearance the programing of the software is fundamentally flawed.
HHS thinks shutting it down on weekends is all they need to fix it... lol

For instance, when a user tries to create an account on HealthCare.gov, which serves insurance exchanges in 36 states, it prompts the computer to load an unusually large amount of files and software, overwhelming the browser, experts said.

If they are right, then just bringing more servers online, as officials say they are doing, will not fix the site.

"Adding capacity sounds great until you realize that if you didn't design it right that won't help," said Bill Curtis, chief scientist at CAST, a software quality analysis firm, and director of the Consortium for IT Software Quality. "The architecture of the software may limit how much you can add on to it. I suspect they'll have to reconfigure a lot of it."

Analysis: IT experts question architecture of Obamacare website | Reuters

[talaniman]

You never know until you try it.