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        Hi Ex 
 
I thought there was an american incursion into Somalia at one time. That mission didn't achieve its objectives, too soft an approach perhaps and a lot of dead bodies after a certain adventurist incident. 
 
Leaving them alone hasn't done anythng by allowed al ashabab to arise and consolidate their position although they seem to be on the losing end lately. How do you bomb a group who lives in a desert? 
 
So yes your formula has proven correct
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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				Hi Ex 
 
I thought there was an american incursion into Somalia at one time. That mission didn't achieve its objectives, too soft an approach perhaps and a lot of dead bodies after a certain adventurist incident. 
 
leaving them alone hasn't done anythng by allowed al ashabab to arise and consolidate their position although they seem to be on the loosing end lately. How do you bomb a group who lives in a desert? 
 
So yes your formula has proven correct 
			
		 
	 
 Clinton blew up an aspirin factory there to distract the media once upon a time.
      
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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Those drones seem committed to Yemen defending the Saudi interests but then it is only a short flight to Somalia so maybe they could get some milage 
 
Smoothy 
 
I think they might be fresh out of aspirin factories although no doubt there is great need Attacking real terrorists like al shabab instead of Syria might get him some brownie points considering he has a family interest in Kenya
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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				Tal 
 
Those drones seem committed to Yemen defending the Saudi interests but then it is only a short flight to Somalia so maybe they could get some milage 
 
Smoothy 
 
I think they might be fresh out of aspirin factories although no doubt there is great need Attacking real terrorists like al shabab instead of Syria might get him some brownie points considering he has a family interest in Kenya 
			
		 
	 
 Yeah... but that would make sense... that means he'd never do it.
      
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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				Never try to predict what a politician will do, particularly an unpredictable one 
			
		 
	 
 Five years and he hasn't done the right thing yet... statistics say he's not likely to anytime soon.
      
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        Ah yes but he did earn his peace prize by stopping the war in Iraq, predictable and he is withdrawing from Afghanistan, predictable
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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				Ah yes but he did earn his peace prize by stopping the war in Iraq, predictable and he is withdrawing from Afghanistan, predictable 
			
		 
	 
 Except he didn't... he got that for dreams and promses... long before we ever got out of Iraq... but wait... we still have troops there... don't we?
      
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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				Except he didn't...he got that for dreams and promses...long before we ever got out of Iraq.....but wait...we still have troops there...don't we? 
			
		 
	 
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        He did not earn the peace prize for Iraq. He got it for his (don't gag) extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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				He did not earn the peace prize for Iraq. He got it for his (don't gag) extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. 
			
		 
	 
 Extraordinary efforts which only happened after the event
      
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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				extraordinary efforts which only happened after the event 
			
		 
	 
 And the event didn't even occur until years after he got the Prize.  (which was like a month or two after he took office)
      
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        It was that hopey changy stuff
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        Hello again,  
	
		
			
			
				He did not earn the peace prize for Iraq.
			
		  
	 
 He didn't EARN it at all.  It was BESTOWED upon him.  Plus, it came with $1.4 million.  What??  He should give it back??   
 
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        If it weren't for the right wing noise machine being constantly on, and obstruction over everything, no telling what we might accomplish. I mean come on guys,  what would any one do with a dog that barks at everything, all the time? All day, and all night?  
 
The muzzle industry would make a fortune off you wingers. And there would be peace through out the land. Well  it would be quiet any way.
     
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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				Hello again, He didn't EARN it at all.  It was BESTOWED upon him.  Plus, it came with $1.4 million.  What???  He should give it back???    
 
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 Yep... he should give it back... because there were other people who were actually deserving of it.
      
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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				Hello again, He didn't EARN it at all.  It was BESTOWED upon him.  Plus, it came with $1.4 million.  What???  He should give it back???    
 
excon 
			
		 
	 
 Which just goes to show the absurdity the Nobels have become. The prizes are to be given to "those who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest benefit to mankind."
 
How exactly did Obama confer the greatest benefit to mankind prior to having the award bestowed upon him? That was a sham.
      
     
    
    
    
    
    
    
  
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        He gave them hope. That's not a small thing, but why expect the right to get it since your whole MO is squeal.  
 
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