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    #561

    Sep 23, 2013, 04:31 PM
    Hi Ex

    I thought there was an american incursion into Somalia at one time. That mission didn't achieve its objectives, too soft an approach perhaps and a lot of dead bodies after a certain adventurist incident.

    Leaving them alone hasn't done anythng by allowed al ashabab to arise and consolidate their position although they seem to be on the losing end lately. How do you bomb a group who lives in a desert?

    So yes your formula has proven correct
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    #562

    Sep 23, 2013, 04:40 PM
    Give Obama is drones back.
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    #563

    Sep 23, 2013, 05:02 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Hi Ex

    I thought there was an american incursion into Somalia at one time. That mission didn't achieve its objectives, too soft an approach perhaps and a lot of dead bodies after a certain adventurist incident.

    leaving them alone hasn't done anythng by allowed al ashabab to arise and consolidate their position although they seem to be on the loosing end lately. How do you bomb a group who lives in a desert?

    So yes your formula has proven correct
    Clinton blew up an aspirin factory there to distract the media once upon a time.
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    #564

    Sep 23, 2013, 06:58 PM
    Tal

    Those drones seem committed to Yemen defending the Saudi interests but then it is only a short flight to Somalia so maybe they could get some milage

    Smoothy

    I think they might be fresh out of aspirin factories although no doubt there is great need Attacking real terrorists like al shabab instead of Syria might get him some brownie points considering he has a family interest in Kenya
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    #565

    Sep 23, 2013, 07:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Tal

    Those drones seem committed to Yemen defending the Saudi interests but then it is only a short flight to Somalia so maybe they could get some milage

    Smoothy

    I think they might be fresh out of aspirin factories although no doubt there is great need Attacking real terrorists like al shabab instead of Syria might get him some brownie points considering he has a family interest in Kenya
    Yeah... but that would make sense... that means he'd never do it.
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    Sep 23, 2013, 07:12 PM
    Never try to predict what a politician will do, particularly an unpredictable one
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    Sep 23, 2013, 07:20 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Never try to predict what a politician will do, particularly an unpredictable one
    Five years and he hasn't done the right thing yet... statistics say he's not likely to anytime soon.
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    Sep 23, 2013, 07:57 PM
    Ah yes but he did earn his peace prize by stopping the war in Iraq, predictable and he is withdrawing from Afghanistan, predictable
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    Sep 23, 2013, 08:00 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Ah yes but he did earn his peace prize by stopping the war in Iraq, predictable and he is withdrawing from Afghanistan, predictable
    Except he didn't... he got that for dreams and promses... long before we ever got out of Iraq... but wait... we still have troops there... don't we?
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    Sep 23, 2013, 08:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Except he didn't...he got that for dreams and promses...long before we ever got out of Iraq.....but wait...we still have troops there...don't we?
    Seriously, does anyone know? You had some there recently for exercises or was that Jordan
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    Sep 24, 2013, 03:44 AM
    He did not earn the peace prize for Iraq. He got it for his (don't gag) extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.
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    Sep 24, 2013, 04:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    He did not earn the peace prize for Iraq. He got it for his (don't gag) extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.
    Extraordinary efforts which only happened after the event
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    Sep 24, 2013, 04:18 AM
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    Sep 24, 2013, 06:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    extraordinary efforts which only happened after the event
    And the event didn't even occur until years after he got the Prize. (which was like a month or two after he took office)
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    #575

    Sep 24, 2013, 06:14 AM
    It was that hopey changy stuff
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    Sep 24, 2013, 06:33 AM
    Hello again,
    He did not earn the peace prize for Iraq.
    He didn't EARN it at all. It was BESTOWED upon him. Plus, it came with $1.4 million. What?? He should give it back??

    Excon
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    Sep 24, 2013, 06:55 AM
    If it weren't for the right wing noise machine being constantly on, and obstruction over everything, no telling what we might accomplish. I mean come on guys, what would any one do with a dog that barks at everything, all the time? All day, and all night?

    The muzzle industry would make a fortune off you wingers. And there would be peace through out the land. Well it would be quiet any way.
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    #578

    Sep 24, 2013, 06:56 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, He didn't EARN it at all. It was BESTOWED upon him. Plus, it came with $1.4 million. What??? He should give it back???

    excon
    Yep... he should give it back... because there were other people who were actually deserving of it.
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    Sep 24, 2013, 07:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, He didn't EARN it at all. It was BESTOWED upon him. Plus, it came with $1.4 million. What??? He should give it back???

    excon
    Which just goes to show the absurdity the Nobels have become. The prizes are to be given to "those who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest benefit to mankind."

    How exactly did Obama confer the greatest benefit to mankind prior to having the award bestowed upon him? That was a sham.
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    #580

    Sep 24, 2013, 08:40 AM
    He gave them hope. That's not a small thing, but why expect the right to get it since your whole MO is squeal.

    You express your fears very well, but you don't seem very hopeful about anything.

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