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    #1341

    Sep 19, 2013, 10:11 AM
    Right... Bill CLinton wasn't innocent... Hillary Clinton wasn't innocent... and Barrak Obama isn't innocent.
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    Sep 19, 2013, 10:53 AM
    You think conservative Texas judges would put their old buddy in jail? Not enough evidence to sustain the conviction was the ruling.

    Welcome another Fox News political analyst to the fold.
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    #1343

    Sep 19, 2013, 10:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You think conservative Texas judges would put their old buddy in jail? Not enough evidence to sustain the conviction was the ruling.

    Welcome another Fox News political analyst to the fold.
    I hope he runs for the House and the Repubics depose Bonehead as speaker and select him as speaker
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    #1344

    Sep 19, 2013, 10:56 AM
    Eric Holder refuses to have a legitimatre investigateion on Fast and Furious.. or Benghazi. the IRS scandle... and those are BIG issues...
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    #1345

    Sep 19, 2013, 11:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You think conservative Texas judges would put their old buddy in jail? Not enough evidence to sustain the conviction was the ruling.

    Welcome another Fox News political analyst to the fold.
    Earle had to shop his charges against DeLay to three different grand juries before he could get an indictment, and then lie to the grand jury about a document he later admitted did not exist in order to get an indictment.
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    #1346

    Sep 19, 2013, 11:18 AM
    Leave it to Tal to impugn everyone except the guy that deserves it, Ronnie Earle.
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    #1347

    Sep 20, 2013, 09:10 AM
    It's come to this...

    California College Forbids Passing Out Constitutions...On Constitution Day
    September 19, 2013

    MODESTO, Calif. September 19, 2013—In a stunning illustration of the attitude taken towards free speech by too many colleges across the United States, Modesto Junior College in California told a student that he could not pass out copies of the United States Constitution outside the student center on September 17, 2013—Constitution Day. Captured on video, college police and administrators demanded that Robert Van Tuinen stop passing out Constitution pamphlets and told him that he would only be allowed to pass them out in the college’s tiny free speech zone, and only after scheduling it several days or weeks ahead of time. The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE) has written to Modesto, demanding that the college rescind this policy immediately.
    Because heaven forbid anyone be assaulted by the words of the constitution. I remember when the left LOVED free speech and would be outraged by this sort of thing. Whatever happened to that?
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    #1348

    Sep 20, 2013, 09:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It's come to this...



    Because heaven forbid anyone be assaulted by the words of the constitution. I remember when the left LOVED free speech and would be outraged by this sort of thing. Whatever happened to that?
    I bet you can get condoms and Directions to Abortion centers outside the tiny free speech zone... Not to mention enough leftist propaganda to choke a whale to death..
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    Sep 20, 2013, 09:58 AM
    You presume its lefties doing this, but has anyone checked for sure? It could be some conservative snob hob just as easily. No matter who did it, they would be wrong in my view unless there is more than meets the eye.
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    #1350

    Sep 20, 2013, 10:28 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You presume its lefties doing this, but has anyone checked for sure? It could be some conservative snob hob just as easily. No matter who did it, they would be wrong in my view unless there is more than meets the eye.
    It's a university... and only lefties hate the constitution because it gets in the way of their agenda.
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    Sep 20, 2013, 10:47 AM
    Righties don't run universities?
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    #1352

    Sep 20, 2013, 10:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You presume its lefties doing this, but has anyone checked for sure? It could be some conservative snob hob just as easily. No matter who did it, they would be wrong in my view unless there is more than meets the eye.
    Ummm because it's part of the California Community Colleges System (CCCS) ,that has a board of Governors appointed by the Jerry Brown .
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    #1353

    Sep 20, 2013, 11:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Righties don't run universities?
    THere are some, but not very many...
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    #1354

    Sep 20, 2013, 11:07 AM
    It has little to do with handing out constitution pamphlets and everything to do with following guidelines for assembly/protest on campus grounds. Would be the same results if it were a pro-choice demonstration or a anti-kool-aid demonstration.
    But, yea, free-speech zones are stupid, but it applies to everyone equally.
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    #1355

    Sep 20, 2013, 11:09 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You presume its lefties doing this, but has anyone checked for sure? It could be some conservative snob hob just as easily. No matter who did it, they would be wrong in my view unless there is more than meets the eye.
    Dude, it is lefties that created these silly speech zones and speech codes. Conservatives fight against them and for the first amendment. You're welcome.
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    #1356

    Sep 20, 2013, 11:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    It has little to do with handing out constitution pamphlets and everything to do with following guidelines for assembly/protest on campus grounds. Would be the same results if it were a pro-choice demonstration or a anti-kool-aid demonstration.
    But, yea, free-speech zones are stupid, but it applies to everyone equally.
    They apply equally but you ASSUME they're enforced equally. Quite often they are not, which is one reason organizations like FIRE exist.
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    #1357

    Sep 20, 2013, 11:17 AM
    Well you ASSUMED it was solely because it was material related to the constitution that make them stop the pamphlet distribution. Right?
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    #1358

    Sep 20, 2013, 11:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well you ASSUMED it was solely because it was material related to the constitution that make them stop the pamphlet distribution. Right?
    No, I ASSUMED the constitution would be welcome anywhere on campus and not subject to speech codes.
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    #1359

    Sep 20, 2013, 11:53 AM
    You assumed incorrectly.
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    #1360

    Sep 20, 2013, 12:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You assumed incorrectly.
    And hence my post, waiting on that outrage over such assaults on the first amendment.

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