[smoothy]

For the millionth time, only an idiot would be mad at someone else getting what most of us have and paying for it themselves.

The alternative is we go back to paying for them to get what they should have had themselves. Can't believe you are for that.

THey aren't paying for it themselves... many of them will be getting SUBSIDIES... many will get it FREE... you understand basic economics... nothing is free... someone else has to foot the bill for it. Those of us with jobs that actually pay taxes are who will pay for it in higher taxes.

[talaniman]

THey aren't paying for it themselves.....many of them will be getting SUBSIDIES...many will get it FREE......you understand basic economics...nothing is free...someone else has to foot the bill for it. Those of us with jobs that actually pay taxes are who will pay for it in higher taxes.

You already are and have been for decades. DUHHHHHHHHH!!

[smoothy]

You already are and have been for decades.

I haven't been paying for Obamacare for decades... but I agree I am now... therefore its not free... its nothing short of being mugged.

And I want my money back... they make the sacrifices to pay for their own.. WITHOUT subsidies... or they can do without.

I managed to do it when I was younger and its was a big chunk of my paycheck... before I spend a dime on anything else... they can do the same. It didn't kill me and it won't kill them.

[Wondergirl]

I haven't been paying for Obamacare for decades

You've been paying for Medicare and Medicaid and SS for decades (and didn't benefit -- yet). Oh, and my husband says thanks for your contribution toward Medicare's paying for his stent surgery.

[talaniman]

I haven't been paying for Obamacare for decades... but I agree I am now... therefore its not free... its nothing short of being mugged.

And I want my money back... they make the sacrifices to pay for their own.. WITHOUT subsidies... or they can do without.

You have been paying for emergency room visits by the uninsured for DECADES, not just with your taxes and federal subsidies to hospitals, but also with the cost those hospitals pass to YOU.

I managed to do it when I was younger and its was a big chunk of my paycheck... before I spend a dime on anything else... they can do the same. It didn't kill me and it won't kill them

That's the dreaded mandate my friend, the one you disagree with. Is a tax break a subsidy, no it's a deduction from taxes paid.

[Athos]

We youths back in the '50s and '60s were ignorant and arrogant (in our own way) but 99% of us didn't get pregnant. What changed since then?

The Pill.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

Come on, the examples in this thread alone are proof

Nahhhh... All it is, is right wingers flapping their gums and citing right wing sources. What else is new?

Excon

[speechlesstx]

So, none of you care that the feds are invading your bedroom thanks to Obamacare? Really?

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[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:
Nahhhh... All it is, is right wingers flapping their gums and citing right wing sources. What else is new?

excon

Since when are the unions right wingers?

[smoothy]

You have been paying for emergency room visits by the uninsured for DECADES, not just with your taxes and federal subsidies to hospitals, but also with the cost those hospitals pass to YOU.



That's the dreaded mandate my friend, the one you disagree with. Is a tax break a subsidy, no its a deduction from taxes paid.

That has nothing to do with it... because are they doing away with that in exchange for this monstrosity... Nope... not they aren't.

[smoothy]

You've been paying for Medicare and Medicaid and SS for decades (and didn't benefit -- yet). Oh, and my husband says thanks for your contribution toward Medicare's paying for his stent surgery.

Medicare and SSI have nothing at all to do with Obamacare.

[speechlesstx]

I'm asking again, none of you libs that whine so often about keeping the government out of our bedrooms care that Obamacare is doing just that?

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[talaniman]

Your conservative author has been wrong before and is again so I challenge you to find the part of the ACA that backs up what she says.

[Wondergirl]

Your conservative author has been wrong before and is again so I challenge you to find the part of the ACA that backs up what she says.

Yup, the confidentiality thing won't change with ACA.

[speechlesstx]

First of all the confidentiality thing is HIPAA which prevents providers from sharing information with people, such as friends and family, that you haven't authorized to receive such information. It has nothing to do with what Obamacare requires to be provided to the government.

Secondly, I defy you to show me me how the physicians quoted are conservative authors.

“This is nasty business,” says New York cardiologist Dr. Adam Budzikowski. He called the sex questions “insensitive, stupid and very intrusive.” He couldn’t think of an occasion when a cardiologist would need such information — but he knows he’ll be pushed to ask for it.

Is he lying? I don't think so, but you remain naïve to all the nonsense being forced on us and the erosion of our rights. You're once again proving you put policy ahead of people and all your past protests about keeping government out of the bedroom, other invasions of privacy and protecting rights were nothing more than hot air. I'm not surprised at all.

[talaniman]

Utter complete BS. Show me where its in the ACA! You refuse to do your own homework before you rattle off some crap the right has been doing for decades. Start with checking out the author of your piece and see her history and advocacy track record. Then check the doctors she trots out. Have you read the other crap she has written?

Or were you to young to remember the Clinton years?

PS, the only time a physician will asks if you own a gun because of the side effects of any medications he wants to prescribe for certain conditions.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

If there's anyone we can trust for her expertise on health care policy, it's Betsy McCaughey, the genius who decided that if Medicare pays for seniors to meet with a doctor to discuss living wills, that's a DEATH PANEL. That's a hell of a lie, and really, there's no way she could hope to top it. But there's still plenty of stuff to lie about, so how about this? In Sunday's New York Post, McCaughey warns that as soon as Obamacare goes into effect, The Government will require every doctor you visit to ask intrusive questions about whom and how you are sexing:

Bwa, ha ha ha.

Excon

[speechlesstx]

And you guys still think if we like our plan we can keep it.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

And you guys still think if we like our plan we can keep it.

For the most part, yes. Let me ask you this. You're a worker. You're covered by your employer. Are YOU losing YOURS? Why not?

On another matter. Are you satisfied with your health care coverage? Have you USED it? IF you've used it, are you STILL satisfied?

Let me explain.. I have pretty good insurance. Since I think I'm a good buyer, OF COURSE, I'm satisfied with my purchase. But, I have NO idea what I'm covered for. I doubt any of you do either... Certainly the last 50 pages of my policy tells me what they DON'T cover, and I'm afraid if I get sick, I'll get one of those diseases.

That won't satisfy me at all.

Excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:For the most part, yes. Lemme ask you this. You're a worker. You're covered by your employer. Are YOU losing YOURS? Why not?

It's a simple matter of the facts. Unless your current plan meets all of the Obamacare criteria it will not be grandfathered in, period. And if you can't understand that Obamacare's union cheerleaders aren't happy, and that 90 percent of federal workers, including those enforcing it, don't want any part of it you'll never get it.