[speechlesstx]

That all well and good as we have a right to our opinion but whatever you believe right or wrong others have a right to do what's best for them. To make decision about their own lives and you don't. So it doesn't matter who is on what side of the issue, they have a right to a choice and you taking it away.

The funny part of your war it's waged against poor females that can't fight you back, because well to do, and women of mean ignore you and do as they please, which makes you a BULLY!!!!! And a hypocrite for refusing to take care of the females you deny the right of choice too.

I'm trying to protect babies and you call me a bully? Really Tal, put aside your ideology and think about it.

P. S. We aren't the ones knowingly promoting a guy that is the antithesis of what we publicly proclaim just to win the election.

[Wondergirl]

I'm trying to protect babies

I don't think I've heard yet what will happen to that baby saved from abortion and who now is the 5th child of a single mom.

[talaniman]

When you tell a female she can't have an abortion because YOU don't like it. It's bullying. Its mighty presumptuous to assume you know what's best for another human being, because of your standards that apply just to you.

Yet you do just that. And if they refuse to comply, you make them by taking away their choice and leaving only your own. That's just wrong. You refuse to take no for an answer, or leave me alone with your ideas or beliefs.

You defend the unborn child, and I defend the poor and the children the choose to have. Write your governor and tell him to expand Medicaid, since he just signed a bill to stop poor females from having an abortion. That's the least you can do. Feed the kids and working poor parents.

[talaniman]

I don't think I've heard yet what will happen to that baby saved from abortion and who now is the 5th child of a single mom.

Or a pregnant teen ager.

[Wondergirl]

Or a pregnant teen ager.

Or the first-time mother whose OB has just informed her that the amnio she had during the early part of her third trimester shows that her baby's brain never developed.

[talaniman]

Or the first-time mother whose OB has just informed her that the amnio she had during the early part of her third trimester shows that her baby's brain never developed.

Or the two married Walmart workers with two kids already and the condom failed.

[Wondergirl]

Or the two married Walmart workers with two kids already and the condom failed.

Or the 14-year-old who was raped by her step-father and discovered she is pregnant.

[talaniman]

Or the 14-year-old who was raped by her step-father and discovered she is pregnant.

Or the 17 year old staying with her boyfriend to escape her meth head parents.

Damn, I actually know all these girls :(

[Wondergirl]

Damn, I actually know all these girls :(

I hope they don't live in Texas or North Carolina (my home state, gack).

[speechlesstx]

When you tell a female she can't have an abortion because YOU don't like it. It's bullying. Its mighty presumptuous to assume you know what's best for another human being, because of your standards that apply just to you.

Ditto.

Yet you do just that. And if they refuse to comply, you make them by taking away their choice and leaving only your own. That's just wrong. You refuse to take no for an answer, or leave me alone with your ideas or beliefs.

Ditto.

You defend the unborn child, and I defend the poor and the children the choose to have. Write your governor and tell him to expand Medicaid, since he just signed a bill to stop poor females from having an abortion. That's the least you can do. Feed the kids and working poor parents.

Don't talk to me about feeding the kids again, I do my part. I don't take from you to do my part which is the left's way.

I get it though, in the liberal world protecting a helpless 20 week old fetus and a poor woman from unsafe conditions and butchers is bad. Putting women in jeopardy from a sexual pervert for the cause is good.

The difference between you and me is I'm all about the sanctity, safety and dignity of the person, you're all about the politics.

[NeedKarma]

The difference between you and me is I'm all about the sanctity, safety and dignity of the person, you're all about the politics.

Well so much for honest discussions. Pathetic.

[speechlesstx]

Well so much for honest discussions. Pathetic.

Like you would know anything about honesty.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

I'm all about the sanctity, safety and dignity of the person, you're all about the politics.

Seems to me, that supporting policies that FORCE a woman to have a BIG, HUGE vaginal PROBE stuck WAYYYY up inside them, in order to enjoy a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, is ANYTHING but dignified..

Excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:
Seems to me, that supporting policies that FORCE a woman to have a BIG, HUGE vaginal PROBE stuck WAYYYY up inside them, in order to enjoy a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, is ANYTHING but dignified..

excon

I don't recall having ever said I was for FORCING "a woman to have a BIG, HUGE vaginal PROBE stuck WAYYYY up inside them" so you can drop that huge lie.

But I am still interested in how running a known pervert that uses his position to prey on his female employees and women vets who were victims of sexual assault isn't a war on women and preserves the sanctity, safety and dignity of the constituency you're purportedly protecting.Or, how ignoring a known butcher "by design" does the same.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

I don't know what's so hard to understand... ONE pervert does NOT make a war. A political party who makes anti women LAW, is a war.

And, you don't have to SAY you love those BIG HUGE vaginal probes to be stuck WAYYYY up inside women, but you DO support laws that force women to go through it. So, I ain't going to stop talking about it.

excon

[talaniman]

Your assumption that we protect a pervert is a false one, as only now are the facts coming to light, and his republican opponents missed it too, because they sure never brought it up either.

Maybe we all got fooled. We miss a lot of sick evil bast@rds nowadays. You guys re elected Sanford, and Gov. Ultra Sound is still serving in Virginia, so you guys are as stupid a you say we are. There is a pretty good list on both sides, so throwing rocks while living in a glass house may not be a winning argument, and a bit self righteous.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

I don't know what's so hard to understand... ONE pervert does NOT make a war. A political party who makes anti women LAW, is a war.

And, you don't have to SAY you love those BIG HUGE vaginal probes to be stuck WAYYYY up inside women, but you DO support laws that force women to go through it. So, I ain't going to stop talking about it.

Excon

I don't know what's so hard to understand either, not every woman is a Planned Parenthood protégé, many are anti-abortion a majority favor a ban at 20 weeks. You have them all lumped in one neat, little box instead of honoring their diversity.

And on top of that you put the policy ahead of the women which I've demonstrated over and over, running a known pervert that uses his position to prey on his female employees and women vets who were victims of sexual assault, ignoring a known butcher "by design", objecting to standards that any other medical facility is required to adhere to for invasive procedures and allow for emergency access in just such cases as one of Gosnell's victims.

CSU Officer John Taggart carefully photographed the narrow maze of hallways, stairs, and claustrophobic rooms filled with clutter, so much so that in some cases, one would have had to scoot sideways down the hallway past rows of chairs, empty water jugs, and other items to get from one part of the clinic to another.

Meanwhile, the abortion lobby continues to fight clinic regulations that would ensure emergency workers have gurney access to procedure rooms as if such rules are an outrageous demand meant to deny women their Constitutional rights. But the truth is that if Gosnell’s clinic had complied with such rules that have since been enacted in Pennsylvania, Karamaya Mongar, the immigrant that he is accused of killing during a second trimester abortion procedure, might still be alive today.

“Indeed, the department has shown an utter disregard both for the safety of women who seek treatment at abortion clinics and for the health of fetuses after they have become viable. State health officials have also shown a disregard for the laws the department is supposed to enforce. Most appalling of all, the Department of Health’s neglect of abortion patients’ safety and of Pennsylvania laws is clearly not inadvertent: It is by design,” the report indicates.

So spare me your policy argument, your side is just as guilty if not more so on that front.

[speechlesstx]

Of all people who knew it would be Jack Nicholson to make my point about abortion and other life lessons...

Hollywood legend Jack Nicholson, 76, who is retiring from movies it was reported today, is, unlike many liberals in Tinseltown, a staunch pro-lifer who said in a 1984 interview about abortion, “I’m positively against it. I don’t have the right to any other view."

He added that it was the moral character of his mother and grandmother that ensured he himself had not been aborted.

The Academy Award-winning Nicholson was born on Apr. 22, 1937 to a woman named June Frances Nicholson, who was 17 years old at the time and a showgirl dancer. Jack was raised by his maternal grandparents, John Nicholson and Ethel May, believing they were his real parents and that June Frances was his sister. Jack Nicholson did not find out until 1974, after his mother had died of cancer, that June Frances was his real mother.

In the 1984 Rolling Stone interview, Jack Nicholson described his mother and the life she had lived and also talked about abortion.  He said, “I’m very contra my constituency in terms of abortion because I’m positively against it. I don’t have the right to any other view.”

“My only emotion is gratitude, literally, for my life,” said Nicholson.  “If June and Ethel had been of less character, I never would have gotten to live. These women gave me the gift of life.”

“It’s a feminist narrative in the very pure form,” said Nicholson. “They trained me great, those ladies. I still, to this day, have never borrowed a nickel from anybody and never felt like I couldn’t take care of myself. They made the imperative of my self-sufficiency obvious."

I could not have put it better.

[NeedKarma]

I don’t have the right to any other view.”

Yes he does. Every one is allowed their opinion. The woman is the final decision maker of course.

[talaniman]

I don't have the right to any other view.”

That's his opinion, agree or disagree, but woman have a right to their choices and opinions, BY LAW.