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    #321

    Jul 16, 2013, 05:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Nope, it's god's will.
    Unlike some I know what I'm talking about here and you're still moving the goalposts, from God was controlling him to it was His will. It's all a sideshow, stick to the facts in evidence that matter.
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    #322

    Jul 16, 2013, 05:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    Media bias is getting even worse, I saw one reporter referring to Martin as "child with a small frame." That is an absolute lie. 17 is hardly a child, it is nearly an adult and he certainly did not have a small frame, I don't know his exact height and weight, but he played football, so he obviously wasn't some skinny wimp, he was larger than many adult men. I would not have wanted to run into him on the street after dark.
    I heard 6'1" .....vs Zimmermans 5'8" I'm a lot bigger guy than Zimmerman at 5"11 and 220 lbs... and I'm good shape for my age.. but not on the same level as a 17 year old athlete (who is actually in his prime) and neither was Zimmerman...
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    #323

    Jul 16, 2013, 05:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    I heard 6'1" .....vs Zimmermans 5'8" I'm a lot bigger guy than Zimmerman.
    Zimmerman had one major advantage over Martin.
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    #324

    Jul 16, 2013, 05:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Zimmerman had one major advantage over Martin.
    Well that was Martins mistake then... he should have considered that before he assaulted him. If you gamble with your life... then you take the risk of losing it. He was man enough to pull that stunt.. he's man enough to pay the price.

    Even if he lived... he was old enough to be charged as an adult.

    You never know WHO is carrying... man OR woman. And I've known women who were some VERY good shots.

    I qualified as Sharpshooter on the range and they would beat me hands down.
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    #325

    Jul 16, 2013, 05:45 PM
    Are you afraid of white boys the same size that played football? I suspect so. But your point is taken about fear, and its cousin hate, and being powerless.
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    #326

    Jul 16, 2013, 05:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Well that was Martins mistake then....he should have considered that before he assaulted him.
    I didn't watch the trial. Did it come out what had been said when Zimmermann came up behind Martin? Was Zimmermann confrontational or warm and fuzzy? Did he say who he was?
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    #327

    Jul 16, 2013, 05:50 PM
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    Are you afraid of white boys the same size that played football? I suspect so. But your point is taken about fear, and its cousin hate, and being powerless.
    If you are being assaulted on the street by someone you don't know... you have every legal right to assume the worst... and after the assault starts.. you have the legal right to take ANY and all steps needed to protect yourself... including lethal force.

    Nobody shot anyone from a half a block away... he shot him once after he had his head pounded into the concrete a couple times... at point blank range when he was flat on his back being beaten with the thug sitting on top of him.

    You can be assured they were not discussing the merits of French vs. Italian wines.

    If I was Zimmerman... I would not have waited that long to shoot him... and wouldn't have stopped at a single shot.

    And I can make that claim because I've been in a similar situation... only it was two guys it was daytime and I had witnesses. And one of them had to have seen his life flash before his eyes because he was a second or two away from having his skull split open like a watermelon. ( I was pulled off as I was starting to make the last two handed swing at his head) He spent the next month in intensive care as it was.

    I didn't have a gun but I was thrown a steel bar that I used.

    So I've been where Zimmerman's been. Not playing armchair quarterback after the game was over.

    No it wasn't a pleasant experience... and I'd be happy if I never had to repeat it too... but I will never lie down if I'm being attacked... its against my nature. I'm the kind of person who would fight to the bitter end. However it turned out.
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    #328

    Jul 16, 2013, 05:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I didn't watch the trial. Did it come out what had been said when Zimmermann came up behind Martin? Was Zimmermann confrontational or warm and fuzzy? Did he say who he was?
    No he did not.
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    #329

    Jul 16, 2013, 06:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I didn't watch the trial. Did it come out what had been said when Zimmermann came up behind Martin? Was Zimmermann confrontational or warm and fuzzy? Did he say who he was?
    It came out where Martin came up behind Zimmerman and attacked... police evidence backed that up... eye witnesses back up Trayvon was the one assaulting Zimmerman... Martins girlfriend told the world her and Trayvon were both racists with the "Crazy white cracker comment" and how he was going to teach him a lesson.

    Trayvons phone was full of texts about numerous previous fights he was recently in... and those WILL be part of any future trial... as they can't be kept out of evidence then.
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    #330

    Jul 16, 2013, 06:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I didn't watch the trial. Did it come out what had been said when Zimmermann came up behind Martin? Was Zimmermann confrontational or warm and fuzzy? Did he say who he was?
    No he was returning to his car when he was attatcked by Treyvon. Treyvon was afraid he was going to be raped by zimmerman so he threw the first punch. He had to teach that homo a lesson.
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    #331

    Jul 16, 2013, 06:30 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    No he was returning to his car when he was attatcked by Treyvon. Treyvon was afraid he was going to be raped by zimmerman so he threw the first punch. He had to teach that homo a lesson.
    What was the conversation when Z came up behind him?
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    #332

    Jul 16, 2013, 06:31 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    What was the conversation when Z came up behind him?
    There wasn't one. Treyvon ran and hid like his girlfriend told him to do.
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    #333

    Jul 16, 2013, 06:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    What was the conversation when Z came up behind him?
    Video: Rachel Jeantel (Trayvon's Girlfriend) Talks To Piers Morgan About Thugs, N****s, And Trayvon Martin!
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    #334

    Jul 16, 2013, 06:51 PM


    Part 2

    Rachel Jeantel Piers Morgan Interview Part 2 - YouTube
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    #335

    Jul 16, 2013, 07:01 PM


    Part 3

    EPIC!! Rachel Jeantel Explains The Difference Between 'N*gga' And 'N*gger' To Piers Morgan HAHA!! - YouTube
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    #336

    Jul 16, 2013, 07:02 PM
    Oh gawd... what a moron... makes you really think about what kind of guy would even date her... What a prize...

    If anyone ever catches me with someone like that... PLEASE cut my wiener off.
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    #337

    Jul 16, 2013, 07:29 PM
    Here is the "racist " Zimmerman in action . 2010 the son of a Sanford police official attacked a homeless black man named Sherman Ware without provocation.

    Cops Son Caught On Camera Punching Homeless Man - YouTube

    The Sanford police were sweeping the incident under the rug and very little was done about it .Zimmerman and his wife started a “Justice for Sherman Ware” campaign. Zimmerman organized the black community to get results and justice for Sherman Ware.
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    #338

    Jul 16, 2013, 08:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Here is the "racist " Zimmerman in action . 2010 the son of a Sanford police official attacked a homeless black man named Sherman Ware without provocation.

    Cops Son Caught On Camera Punching Homeless Man - YouTube

    The Sanford police were sweeping the incident under the rug and very little was done about it .Zimmerman and his wife started a “Justice for Sherman Ware” campaign. Zimmerman organized the black community to get results and justice for Sherman Ware.
    According to Martins nigga girl friend I can now call you a nigga 'cause you are male what sort of crap is this and what is the correct term for a negro woman?
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    #339

    Jul 17, 2013, 02:07 AM
    All I have to say about Rachel Jeantel is that the idiots in the media are trying to create a celeb out of this unfortunate failure of liberal education.
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    #340

    Jul 17, 2013, 03:17 AM
    Are there any successes of conservative education?

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