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May 31, 2013, 07:34 AM
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Now it is came to this! Men are feeling insecure because women are independent. Another new age propaganda of men to put a leash on women.
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May 31, 2013, 07:55 AM
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If men are feeling insecure over this then perhaps they need to man up . But yeah this is Western culture's wussification of men . It starts in school where boys are no longer allowed to play contact sports and otherwise be boys. When they play sports or anything else competitive there are no winners or losers . It also happens at home where there are so many single parent families that boys are often denied positive male role models .
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Expert
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May 31, 2013, 08:23 AM
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Deal with it! Can you blame females for being tired of men telling them what to do?
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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May 31, 2013, 09:49 AM
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In today's paper --
"[There is a] shift in American society. An Associated Press-WE TV poll of people under 50 found that more than 2 in 5 unmarried women without children — or 42 percent — would consider having a child on their own without a partner, including more than a third, or 37 percent, who would consider adopting solo."
And these are career women with money in savings accounts.
Poll: 2 in 5 women would consider parenting solo - Chicago Sun-Times
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Ultra Member
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May 31, 2013, 09:49 AM
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Tell you what I can't deal with anymore ,the inept , bumbling dad image that is ever present in mass media . You know ;the ones that get schooled by their children,the immature arrested development types who cannot walk and chew gum and needs constant direction from wife and children to survive. This type of sexist stereotype is perfectly acceptable today.
T-Mobile Smart Guys MyFaves Commercial - YouTube
New Huggies Commercial - Dad Campaign - YouTube
(Huggies pulled the most offensive ads that insult fathers and introduced this 'not all dads are imbiciles ' ad... geee much better !
Lowe's - Dumb Dad Ad - YouTube
Stupid dad - YouTube
In the mind of popular culture ,dads are a cross between Homer Simpson and'Everbody loves Raymond '... an incompetent man-child.
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May 31, 2013, 10:06 AM
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Look around the world at the women who are still mutilated as girls, denied education, considered useless damaged goods if raped, married off without their consent, maimed or killed for glancing at men not their husbands, and kept behind veils and in back rooms. Even the 'modern' countries kept women from owning property, inheriting, voting, and so on.
Men are going to have to deal with some pent up frustration. If they allow themselves to be wussified it's their own fault. I am a woman and when I see a wussy commercial, I don't look or I change the channel. For decades it was a 'rule' of advertising that the man be in a dominant position in an ad with a woman, either leaning over her while she sat, or standing while she sat. The worst ones were ads for cigarettes, until 'You've come a long way baby' became a huge hit.
Then there were all the ads where the man lectured or advised a woman about household products... all just as bad as the ones now, if not worse for me anyway, because I saw them growing up.
I read the first part of the article and don't agree with most of it.
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May 31, 2013, 10:21 AM
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 Originally Posted by joypulv
Look around the world at the women who are still mutilated as girls, denied education, considered useless damaged goods if raped, married off without their consent, maimed or killed for glancing at men not their husbands, and kept behind veils and in back rooms. Even the 'modern' countries kept women from owning property, inheriting, voting, and so on.
Now, tell me your best guess why this is (or was).
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May 31, 2013, 10:26 AM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Now, tell me your best guess why this is (or was).
Because starting a few thousand years ago men saw daughters as bargaining chips, to be bought, sold, and traded, for land, animals, and protective alliances.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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May 31, 2013, 10:28 AM
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 Originally Posted by joypulv
Because starting a few thousand years ago men saw daughters as bargaining chips, to be bought, sold, and traded, for land, animals, and protective alliances.
I agree and think that men see women as a mystery (bodies that can produce a baby, the menstrual cycle), a mystery that needs to be subdued and controlled.
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May 31, 2013, 10:33 AM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I agree and think that men see women as a mystery (bodies that can produce a baby, the menstrual cycle), a mystery that needs to be subdued and controlled.
That too!
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Uber Member
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May 31, 2013, 10:40 AM
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I agree and think that men see women as a mystery (bodies that can produce a baby, the menstrual cycle), a mystery that needs to be subdued and controlled.
Not this guy!
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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May 31, 2013, 10:45 AM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Not this guy!
You've unraveled the mystery and yet don't feel threatened?? And you don't want to dominate and fence us in?
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Ultra Member
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May 31, 2013, 11:00 AM
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They start emasculating them when they are young...
In the latest incident of anti-gun hysteria to erupt in a school setting, a kindergarten boy has been suspended from school for 10 days because he showed a friend his cowboy-style cap gun on the way to school.
The incident happened on Wednesday morning at about 8:30 a.m. on a school bus in Calvert County, Maryland, reports The Washington Post.
The kindergartener had brought the toy gun because his friend had brought a water gun the previous day. He later told his mother than he “really, really” wanted his friend to see it.
The suspended boy had acquired the menacing, plastic, orange-tipped weapon at Frontier Town, a western-themed campground with a water park, mini golf and the like.
School officials at Dowell Elementary School in the town of Lusby proceeded to question the five-year-old for over two hours before finally calling his mother, whom The Post also does not name.
The principal eventually called the boy's mother at 10:50 a.m. By that time, the five-year-old had wet his pants (which the mother called highly unusual).
The principal told the boy's mother that the boy had simulated shooting someone on the bus with the offending novelty. However, both the boy and his older sister, a first-grader, say the principal is not telling the truth.
The Post explains that the principal — Jennifer L. Young, according to Dowell Elementary's website — told the kindergartener's mother that things would have been even worse had the toy gun been loaded with caps. In that case, the school would have regarded the plaything as an explosive and called the police.
“I have no problem that he had a consequence to his behavior,” the mother told the Post. “What I have a problem with is the severity.”
The mother is also upset about the trauma her son experienced without her knowledge.
“Why were we not immediately contacted?” she asked
The 10-day suspension is officially for possessing a look-alike gun, notes the Post. If the suspension is not lifted, the kindergartener won't be able to go to school the rest of the year. The suspension will also be part of his permanent academic record.
Kindergartener interrogated over cap gun until he pees his pants, then suspended 10 days
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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May 31, 2013, 11:04 AM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
they start emasculating them when they are young ...
And the school officials were male? I see the principal was female, but what was this boy's point in bringing a gun to school. Domination? Subduing?
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May 31, 2013, 11:10 AM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
You've unraveled the mystery and yet don't feel threatened????? And you don't want to dominate and fence us in?
"Yes Dear"!! It's not that hard! Its only hard when a wussy male has his ego wrapped up in dominating a status symbol female to meet his needs as a male to convince himself and everyone else he is an exceptional male and not a wuss.
You know the ones Arnold refers to as girlie men. All men cannot be dominant alpha males.
The big secret is many men are threatened by independent dominant females. But the wussification of men by a female(S)is a stretch.
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Uber Member
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May 31, 2013, 11:17 AM
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You've unraveled the mystery and yet don't feel threatened??
My daughter started her period last weekend :) Oddly enough we still hang around and I feel much less like giving her the beatings that I use to give her... y'know, jus' 'cause she's a girl.
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Uber Member
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May 31, 2013, 11:18 AM
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The big secret is many men are threatened by independent dominant females.
Probably the same ones that buy Hummers. :D
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Ultra Member
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May 31, 2013, 11:29 AM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
And the school officials were male? I see the principal was female, but what was this boy's point in bringing a gun to school. Domination? Subduing?
I pray that you are not endorsing the behavior of the school officials.
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Jobs & Parenting Expert
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May 31, 2013, 12:04 PM
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 Originally Posted by Athos
I pray that you are not endorsing the behavior of the school officials.
Absolutely not!
One Sunday, my minister's-wife Mom took my little brother's winter jacket off after we had sat down in church and was horrified to discover he had strapped on his gun belt with two holsters that held his six guns. We still chuckle about that.
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