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NeedKarma · May 7, 2013, 09:41 AM

You'll have to grill ex about this alleged plan, it's his post, not mine.

No, YOU used the word then are trying to pass off that he said, he never did.

The "revolution crap" is the context of the article I posted.

Geez, no wonder no productive discussions ever occur here.

Try to keep up. Irelevant. Grow up. Troll. Ankle biter. Go away.

smoothy · May 7, 2013, 09:45 AM

Ethics in Journalism - Plagiarism & Fabrication Scandals

Trust little you read in newspapers...

speechlesstx · May 7, 2013, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

No, YOU used the word then are trying to pass off that he said, he never did.

The "revolution crap" is the context of the article I posted.

Geez, no wonder no productive discussions ever occur here.

Try to keep up. Irelevant. Grow up. Troll. Ankle biter. Go away.

Dude, it's your problem if you can't keep from looking like a fool. I tried to help you avoid that but you just won't give up. Live with it.

NeedKarma · May 7, 2013, 09:49 AM

Ok, I'll try to live with live it. Thanks for helping... you rock!

Got to go back to my regularly scheduled work and family now. I guess you'll be staying here all day?

talaniman · May 7, 2013, 12:36 PM

Nutty new NRA president Jim Porter still fighting war against 'Northern Aggression' - NY Daily News

He also advocates training all U.S. civilians to use standard military firearms so “they’re ready to fight tyranny.”

Is this mandatory military service?

speechlesstx · May 7, 2013, 12:47 PM

Last I checked advocating is not compulsion.

smoothy · May 7, 2013, 12:49 PM

The left fears people knowing how to defend themselves... might harm a few of their friends during a robbery.

Wondergirl · May 7, 2013, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

The left fears people knowing how to defend themselves

No, the left fears people think they need to defend themselves.

speechlesstx · May 7, 2013, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

No, the left fears people think they need to defend themselves.

Well that's rather stupid. The left doesn't think people need to defend themselves?

Music store owner shoots burglar dead after his wife was hit with wooden club in store invasion

Wondergirl · May 7, 2013, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Well that's rather stupid. The left doesn't think people need to defend themselves?

Always the putdown. Is it because I respond at all? Because I am female? Because I don't agree with you?

Defend... from imaginary threats.

speechlesstx · May 7, 2013, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Always the putdown. Is it because I respond at all? because I am female? because I don't agree with you?

defend ... from imaginary threats.

Um, I'm not the one imagining threats. The subject of my response was the same same as yours, :"the left." Are you the left?

talaniman · May 7, 2013, 01:50 PM

The left thinks the people who need to defend themselves but don't want to be safer by more comprehensive background checks to weed out criminals and nut jobs are loony and paranoid.

I mean worrying about an armed conflict with the government (or zombies) is loony, and a door to door mass confiscation of guns from American citizens is paranoid.

Makes one wonder about those Americans with guns already.

speechlesstx · May 7, 2013, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

From what I can detect in this conversation, the NRA is protecting MY rights as a convicted felon to buy a gun.

Tell him thanks for me.

Excon

FYI... gun crime is DOWN dramatically over the last 20 years, not according to the NRA but the Bureau of Justice statistics:

WASHINGTON–Firearm-related homicides declined 39 percent and nonfatal firearm crimes declined 69 percent from 1993 to 2011, the Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced today. Firearm-related homicides dropped from 18,253 homicides in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011, and nonfatal firearm crimes dropped from 1.5 million victimizations in 1993 to 467,300 in 2011.

And this stat is just for you my friend:

In 2004 (the most recent year of data available), among state prison inmates who possessed a gun at the time of the offense, fewer than two percent bought their firearm at a flea market or gun show. About 10 percent of state prison inmates said they purchased it from a retail store or pawnshop, 37 percent obtained it from family or friends, and another 40 percent obtained it from an illegal source.

And according to Pew, most Americans are unaware that gun crime is down so dramatically. That doesn't fit the left's hysterical narrative.

speechlesstx · May 7, 2013, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

The left thinks the people who need to defend themselves but don't want to be safer by more comprehensive background checks to weed out criminals and nut jobs are loony and paranoid.

I mean worrying about an armed conflict with the government (or zombies) is loony, and a door to door mass confiscation of guns from American citizens is paranoid.

Makes one wonder about those Americans with guns already.

See my last post, your hysterics have been exposed for what they are, nonsense.

smoothy · May 7, 2013, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

The left thinks the people who need to defend themselves but don't want to be safer by more comprehensive background checks to weed out criminals and nut jobs are loony and paranoid.

I mean worrying about an armed conflict with the government (or zombies) is loony, and a door to door mass confiscation of guns from American citizens is paranoid.

Makes one wonder about those Americans with guns already.

The Zombie fearing crowd are Democrats.

There are over 20,000 gun laws on the books now most of which are ignored... why does the left thing more are going to change anything.

Its illegal for Democrats to be arming the drug cartels... but they are doing it and nobody has been arrested or impeached for it yet.

Tuttyd · May 8, 2013, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Well that's rather stupid. The left doesn't think people need to defend themselves?

Music store owner shoots burglar dead after his wife was hit with wooden club in store invasion

I would also say that anyone, left or right, may well fear a situation whereby self protection becomes some sort of prerequisite for living in a community. Some people may well be happy with such a requirement, but no everyone wants to be put into this situation.

So no, it isn't a stupid claim. In fact it is a sensible claim.

speechlesstx · May 8, 2013, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Tuttyd

I would also say that anyone, left or right, may well fear a situation whereby self protection becomes some sort of prerequisite for living in a community. Some people may well be happy with such a requirement, but no everyone wants to be put into this situation.

So no, it isn't a stupid claim. In fact it is a sensible claim.

I commented on what was said, not what wasn't said.

excon · May 8, 2013, 06:42 AM

Hello again, Steve:

Well that's rather stupid. The left doesn't think people need to defend themselves?

What's stupid, is to say that black is white... As in, going through a background check MEANS people can't defend themselves..

Excon

paraclete · May 8, 2013, 06:49 AM

Its all stupid no zombie is going to pass a background check

Tuttyd · May 8, 2013, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I commented on what was said, not what wasn't said.

Wondergirl's quote was in response to Smoothy:

"The left fear people knowing how to defend themselves..."

Wondergirl reponded:

"No, the left fears people who* think they need to defend themselves."
* I am assuming that this word was omitted.

She made a sensible response in the context of the conservation. Hence my response.