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    Apr 25, 2013, 07:57 AM
    Boyfriend watching porn, I was tortured with it as a kid.
    When I was growing up I was touched by my dad and raped by 2 different men. My father and one of these men would torture me with images of porn and make me feel extremely uncomfortable, as well as one of the men recording the rape and making me watch it. After he proceeded to put porn on and tell me what was wrong with me and what I didn't have that these girls had. Being tortured by this has made me a very insecure woman. I caught my boyfriend watching porn and when I did it brought back these terrible memories. It hurt me so much our relationship hasn't been the same. I don't know if it will ever be. I explained to him why when I saw it I couldn't stop crying and couldn't speak. Yet he proceeds to watch it but tries to hide it. I don't know how to feel about this and how to fix my relationship if its even fixable. Someone please help!
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    Apr 25, 2013, 08:04 AM
    While I will say , I'm sorry you was subjected to that as a child... I also have to say the following.

    I hate to tell you this... but despite what you have been through... he has the right to watch it.

    I also see a complete lack of mention of you having had therapy to deal with your issues resulting from what you went through.

    It is however unreasonible to impose on others what they can and can't do on their own time instead of taking the steps to resolve the problems you have, or at least deal with them as best you will be able.

    And you really NEED to get that counseling. For your own well being and mental health. Its not a waste of time or money.

    Would you be willing to give up chick flicks and romance novels... because to a woman... those have the same effect on the brain as porn does to a male brain.

    You have to understand porn isn't about you... don't try to think that it is. He doesn't see it like that either.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 08:38 AM
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    While I will say , I'm sorry you was subjected to that as a child.....I also have to say the following.

    I hate to tell you this....but despite what you have been through...he has the right to watch it.

    I also see a complete lack of mention of you haveing had therapy to deal with your issues resulting from what you went through.

    It is however unreasonible to impose on others what they can and can't do on their own time instead of taking the steps to resolve the problems you have, or at least deal with them as best you will be able.

    And you really NEED to get that councelling. For your own well being and mental health. Its not a waste of time or money.

    Would you be willing to give up chick flicks and romance novels...because to a woman...those have the same effect on the brain as porn does to a male brain.

    You have to understand porn isn't about you......don't try to think that it is. He doesn't see it like that either.
    I understand that, and I have been through therapy, I am seeing a therapist now. She just doesn't help much. I don't know how to be okay with the situation though. I'm always told I'm never going to get over it. I just want to be normal and not feel the way I do. I understand my boyfriend loves me, but I can't think of him the same anymore. I try, but everything changed for me the day I saw that. I feel like I have no control over it either.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 08:44 AM
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    I understand that, and I have been through therapy, I am seeing a therapist now. She just doesn't help much. I don't know how to be okay with the situation though. I'm always told I'm never going to get over it. I just want to be normal and not feel the way I do. I understand my boyfriend loves me, but I can't think of him the same anymore. I try, but everything changed for me the day I saw that. I feel like I have no control over it either.
    Glad you are getting the help you need... but seriously... if one therapist isn't working for you, don't give up on it... find another... half of therapy is getting the right match of people that are comfortible with each other. Its not much different than how you feel about who can be a friend or not... some people just don't click. Same with your health care professionals. How long it takes isn't the same for everyone... but it will help if you stick with it. I could tell you a story of someone I know that would send a chill up your spine (known her for over 15 years)... she was literally prostituted out as a child by her parents (and I mean child as in prepubescent)... and chained up at night... for years before she ran away as a early teen and lived on the streets... while she is still in therapy... she is a wonderful person and a wonderful mother to her kids... and I'll leave it at that... but if she could manage to live a normal life after what she was through... I think you can as well if you stick with it and keep a positive attitude. Just don't expect it to happen by next week or next month... Its a process, and it takes time.

    You do have control over how you feel about something even if it may feel like you don't... however you don't have control over what he does any more than he has... or even should have control over what you do... each person has their own personal space... and each is entitled to it... even after marriage. It helps keep couples from getting on each others nerves or getting tired of being around each other.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 08:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Glad you are getting the help you need....but seriously...if one therapist isn't working for you, don't give up on it...find another....half of therapy is getting the right match of people that are comfortible with each other. Its not much differnt than how you feel about who can be a friend or not....some people just don't click. Same with your health care professionals.

    You do have control over how you feel about something....however you don't have control over what he does any more than he has...or even should have control over what you do....each person has their own personal space...and each is entitled to it...even after marriage. It helps keep couples from getting on each others nerves or getting tired of being around each other.
    I appreciate your help so much no one has given me good advice on this. Just to leave him because he should respect me. I think it would be wrong to leave him over that. I am currently looking for another therapist just they are hard to find when you don't have the best insurance. I don't know how to make myself okay with what he's doing though. As I agree with everything you've said, don't people in love need to understand each other and their differences? By him watching it does that mean he doesn't care about what happened and how it makes me feel?
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:06 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Mina90 View Post
    I appreciate your help so much no one has given me good advice on this. Just to leave him because he should respect me. I think it would be wrong to leave him over that. I am currently looking for another therapist just they are hard to find when you don't have the best insurance. I don't know how to make myself okay with what he's doing though. As I agree with everything you've said, don't people in love need to understand each other and their differences? By him watching it does that mean he doesn't care about what happened and how it makes me feel?
    Him watching it has nothing to do with you... in a guys mind there is no connection at all... they are totally separate issues... guys are visual... we get our mental stimulation through images... women are more cerebral and get the same though books and other more abstract means.

    Its just that men and women think differently. Always have... always will.


    Keep in mind loving someone has nothing to do with being expected to give everything up.. thats a incorrect concept many young people seem to think and it actually dooms many of their relationships as a result.

    If your partner starts demanding or expecting you to give things up you like... anything, friends, things you watch... things you read... things you eat... it doesn't matter what... resentments begin to form... and then they grow over time until it poisons the relationship.

    When you truly love someone... you accept them the way they are... flaws and all... you don't get to remould them into some other image that isn't them. Like a rubber band... people might stretch temporarily... but they snap right back to what they were before.

    You will surprise yourself of what you are capable of... as long as you can maintain a positive and good outlook on life in general... and take the bumps along the way with a smile. Negativity also has a way of becoming reality if you choose to see only the bad in things. AS you get older... and have known people for decades.. you can see how their attitude shaped their future, as well as your own..
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:12 AM
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    I am currently looking for another therapist just they are hard to find when you don't have the best insurance.
    Have you checked with Catholic Charities or Lutheran Social Services? Plus many master's level counselors have a sliding scale that takes into account your income and insurance situation. If you need more specific help, let me know.

    It comes down to being an issue of control. As a child, you had none and were subjected to horrible treatment that has greatly affected who you are and how you deal with the world. No, you will never forget what happened to you, but a good counselor will help you regain and know how to use that control that you lost.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Him watching it has nothing to do with you....in a guys mind there is no connection at all....they are totally seperate issues....guys are visual.....we get our mental stimulation through images...women are more cerebral and get the same though books and other more abstract means.

    Its just that men and women think differently. Always have...always will.


    Keep in mind loving someone has nothing to do with being expected to give everything up..thats a incorrect concept many young people seem to think and it actually dooms many of their relationships as a result.

    If your partner starts demanding or expecting you to give things up you like.....anything, friends, things you watch...things you read...things you eat......it doesn't matter what....resentments begin to form...and then they grow over time until it poisons the relationship.

    When you truely love someone...you accept them the way they are...flaws and all....you don't get to remould them into some other image that isn't them.
    I guess our relationship was doomed to fail from the beginning I'm a young woman I'm 19. He's 21 since the beginning of our relationship I wasn't allowed to speak to guy friends and had to stop smoking cigs. I gave up a lot to be with him. Maybe that's why I resent him for not stopping when I asked. It's the one thing I've asked him to give up and I've given up so much for him.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Have you checked with Catholic Charities or Lutheran Social Services? Plus many master's level counselors have a sliding scale that takes into account your income and insurance situation. If you need more specific help, let me know.

    It comes down to being an issue of control. As a child, you had none and were subjected to horrible treatment that has greatly affected who you are and how you deal with the world. No, you will never forget what happened to you, but a good counselor will help you regain and know how to use that control that you lost.
    Thank you so much, I greatly appreciate this. I will definitely look into this with my mother.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:18 AM
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    Thank you so much, I greatly appreciate this. I will definitely look into this with my mother.
    Please, please let me know how your search goes and how you are doing. I'm a counselor and thus have a special interest in this.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:19 AM
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    I guess our relationship was doomed to fail from the beginning I'm a young woman I'm 19. He's 21 since the beginning of our relationship I wasn't allowed to speak to guy friends and had to stop smoking cigs. I gave up a lot to be with him. Maybe that's why I resent him for not stopping when I asked. It's the one thing I've asked him to give up and I've given up so much for him.
    Well cigarettes are one thing... the rest however are another.

    Like I said... relationsships aren't about a competition on who gave what up... or who gave up more... if its meant to be... neither of you would see or expect the other to give these up because I gave those up. As you see when you do that... resentment follows.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:20 AM
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    Please, please let me know how your search goes and how you are doing. I'm a counselor and thus have a special interest in this.
    I definitely will.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Well cigarettes are one thing....the rest however are another.

    Like I said...relationsships aren't about a competition on who gave what up...or who gave up more....if its meant to be...neither of you would see or expect the other to give these up because I gave those up. As you see when you do that....resentment follows.
    Yes, I see. I still have a lot to learn I know that, that's why I'm on here asking for help. I appreciate all the advice you've given me and I will use it in the future and even now. I can't thank you enough.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:25 AM
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    I wasn't allowed to speak to guy friends and had to stop smoking cigs. I gave up a lot to be with him.
    Hmmm, it sounds like this is another control situation with someone dictating to you how you should act and how you should be in order to please him. Do you see the similarity to what happened when you were a child? I don't mean to negate your relationship with this guy since I don't know the history and entire scope of it, but it certainly doesn't sound like a 50-50 give-and-take relationship, does it.

    I do agree with smoothy about the porn, but porn is definitely a hot-button issue for you.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Hmmm, it sounds like this is another control situation with someone dictating to you how you should act and how you should be in order to please him. Do you see the similarity to what happened when you were a child? I don't mean to negate your relationship with this guy since I don't know the history and entire scope of it, but it certainly doesn't sound like a 50-50 give-and-take relationship, does it.
    Yeah, he is controlling. I've missed family parties because I had to be with him.
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:36 AM
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    Yeah, he is controlling. I've missed family parties because I had to be with him.
    See that's one of those things he had no business demanding you do...

    Its not like you were going clubbing alone with a group of 8 guys...
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:36 AM
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    Yeah, he is controlling. I've missed family parties because I had to be with him.
    It's time to find that counselor! You do not want to be subject to controlling men (i.e. people) for the rest of your life. You need to find YOU again and know what and how to control certain things!
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:38 AM
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    I do agree with smoothy about the porn, but porn is definitely a hot-button issue for you.
    Yes, it is a very big issue for me. When I saw he was watching porn I couldn't speak, I couldn't eat, I cried for 3 days straight and its not because he was watching it. It's because of the way just seeing the site effected me. I don't know what to do. He seems like those bad people to me now...
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:40 AM
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    See thats one of those things he had no business demanding you do.....

    Its not like you were going clubbing alone with a group of 8 guys.....
    Exactly! And he also claimed that men who watched porn didn't care about their girlfriends. So now it makes me feel like he doesn't care about me. This caused me to be one big mess
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    Apr 25, 2013, 09:41 AM
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    It's time to find that counselor! You do not want to be subject to controlling men (i.e., people) for the rest of your life. You need to find YOU again and know what and how to control certain things!
    I am trying.

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