[cdad]

Hello again, Steve

Here's your problem.. You think Al Gore shouldn't drive. You think Obama should VOLUNTEER to pay more taxes.. You think because Ed Asner is RICH, he shouldn't have an opinion on the poor..

Right wingers, of course, CAN have an opinion on the poor...

excon

That's not it at all. Its more inline with those you have mentioned seem to want to tell us what to do and they don't do it or exempt themselves from it. That is where the hypocrisy comes from. Like how under examination you will see the GOP tends to give more money out of pocket to the needy where the dems want to give away other peoples money and covet their own.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve

Here's your problem.. You think Al Gore shouldn't drive. You think Obama should VOLUNTEER to pay more taxes.. You think because Ed Asner is RICH, he shouldn't have an opinion on the poor..

Right wingers, of course, CAN have an opinion on the poor...

excon

Here's your problem, you attempt to speak for me instead of me speaking for myself. I don't care if Al drives and I've already said no one should pay more taxes than they owe - it's YOU that whines about "handouts" you don't get - and I respect everyone's right to an opinion. Got it?

The difference between me and Ed Asner and co. is if I were as rich as they are I wouldn't have the audacity to b*tch about rich people as I weren't one of them. If I were demanding everyone pay their "fair share" I would be the first to pitch mine in, and if were concerned about man-made climate change I'd do something besides get rich off it.

As for the poor I lead by example, I don't take from you to give to them.

[talaniman]

We never mistook you for Robin Hood, rest assured. Admit it though the Sherriff of Nottingham is your hero.

[cdad]

We never mistook you for Robin Hood, rest assured. Admit it though the Sherriff of Nottingham is your hero.

Me thinks thee have bumped thy noggin.

[talaniman]

Forgot to duck when the right wing throws rocks.

[speechlesstx]

Forgot to duck when the right wing throws rocks.

Um, the rock throwers here are the ones that are the subject of this post. I realize you lefties think if only we'd just be docile and silent and know our place under your feet that all would be well, but we're just stubborn that way. I never quite learned that turn the other cheek thingy.

As it was the Sheriff's job to keep the peasants from poaching the king's deer I would think he would be your hero.

[Tuttyd]

take one of Tal's diatribes ;put it in a calm cartoonish narrative tone with simplistic illustrations and you get the idea. It's a 'the rich screw up everything' video.

Isn't it the ruling elites that screw up everything? The ruling elites by definition are rich. I thought you were on board with that.

[tomder55]

They aren't the ones the video accuse. Had he mentioned ,in his narrative ,the role of government in destroying the economy at least he would've been closer to the truth .
Asner is a shill with an agenda.. But this video was just a pay day for him. I fault the teacher's union for commissioning this steaming pile of manure.

[Tuttyd]

they aren't the ones the video accuse. Had he mentioned ,in his narrative ,the role of government in destroying the economy at least he would've been closer to the truth .
Asner is a shill with an agenda .. But this video was just a pay day for him. I fault the teacher's union for commissioning this steaming pile of manure.

Good point. It attempts to promote the myth that there is some type of genuine choice when it comes to political allegiances.

[talaniman]

He did mention the role of government. He said the rich guys bought them to shill for them.

[paraclete]

Yes somewhat close to the truth

[speechlesstx]

He did mention the role of government. He said the rich guys bought them to shill for them.

I hope you're including unions such as that which produced this piece of nonsense and pretty much hold Democrats by the gonads.

[NeedKarma]

Sure, pretty much anyone with money can but an american politician.

[talaniman]

I hope you're including unions such as that which produced this piece of nonsense and pretty much hold Democrats by the gonads.

If corporations are people too, then why can't unions be people too? And at least you can elect your union officials, but try that with a CEO. Let me know how that works for you!

Hmmm? If I remember correctly, your boss pays you about what your union brothers make, or he couldn't keep good help.

Just saying.

[speechlesstx]

So you're not including unions in that buying off politicians, or are you just OK with some folks buying them off?

[tomder55]

Unions were people before corporations were. No one was complaining about their political contributions and trying to control them ;and public unions are even worse . They contribute to the same people that they will eventually sit across the collective bargaining table from... a conflict of interest that borders on the criminal.

[talaniman]

Well hell, if the rich guys can have a voice, a seat at the table, and a say so about wages and working conditions why can' the little guys? That's not a conflict of interest and contributions are voluntary, and a matter of public record.

Conflicts of interest that borders on criminal are the lobbyists, and former congressional aides and there bosses who end up working for the same companies that contributed to their election, and re-election campaigns.

[speechlesstx]

I take it that's definitely a yes, you're OK with rich union types buying off politicians. Hard to convince people to jump on your bandwagon when your complaint is that selective.

And speaking of rich union types, Sally Jo Widmer was the head of the Aubirn Teachers Assn for more than 35 years. When she died last year former Auburn mayor Guy Cosentino praised her as “a true union leader who put her union first and personal niceties second.”

But she certainly didn't put her checkbook second...

Union leaders: former Auburn Teachers Association president used $800,000 in union funds for gambling, trips

Of course what union chief wouldn't put their own wallet first?

[tomder55]

and contributions are voluntary, and a matter of public record.

wrong ,unions contribute dues that are mandatory . The rank and file have no say where their money goes.

[NeedKarma]

you're OK with rich union types buying off politicians

He didn't say that - he said that if corporations can do it then the system is set up the same way for the deep-pockets of unions.