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    Apr 19, 2013, 10:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Apparently, the older brother (from what I am hearing) was socially and emotionally disconnected, had no friends, was obsessed with Islam and what was "right." The younger brother had totally become part of the U.S. landscape until his brother started to influence him a few years ago.
    And yet the Chechen president blames the evil on their American upbringing, not the apparent Islamic fanaticism.
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    #782

    Apr 19, 2013, 10:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And yet the Chechen president blames the evil on their American upbringing, not the apparent Islamic fanaticism.
    Why the Chechen President Released His Statement About the Boston Bombers via Instagram | Motherboard
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    Apr 19, 2013, 10:48 AM
    Any attempt to draw a connection between Chechnya and Tsarnaevs — if they are guilty — is futile
    I fully agree with this part of his statement . It has nothing to do with the nation of origin. It has a lot to do with the radicalized version of the religion they embraced. I wonder if Ramzan Kadyrov is willing to disavow such extremism. It is an absolute FACT that AQ heavily recruits in Chechnya. American soldiers have been killed by Chechen jihadists in Afghanistan and Iraq . There are whole cells of Chechen jihadists waging war in Syria today.
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    Apr 19, 2013, 10:57 AM
    So he loves Instagram. Ok.
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    #785

    Apr 19, 2013, 10:59 AM
    Hmmm... NYC looking at Muslim college communities in the area doesn't seem so bad anymore.
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    Apr 19, 2013, 11:50 AM
    The Checken president must be running for Premier of East Cretin.
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    Apr 20, 2013, 02:45 AM
    All the people in that Watertown neighborhood, hiding, doors locked. ... How many of them, do you think -- and worried that this guy might get into their home, maybe take them hostage -- how many of them, do you think, might like a gun? To be able to protect themselves and defend their homes.
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    Chris Wallace on Bombing Suspect Manhunt: How Many In Lockdown Area 'Might Like A Gun'? - YouTube
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    Apr 20, 2013, 03:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    All the people in that Watertown neighborhood, hiding, doors locked. ... How many of them, do you think -- and worried that this guy might get into their home, maybe take them hostage -- how many of them, do you think, might like a gun? To be able to protect themselves and defend their homes.
    (Chris Wallace )
    Chris Wallace on Bombing Suspect Manhunt: How Many In Lockdown Area 'Might Like A Gun'? - YouTube
    So Fox is covering gun control, that should make the NY Slimes happy.
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    Apr 20, 2013, 06:55 AM
    I'm guessing that since these guys weren't homegrown white boys they'll be treated as "lone wolves" now by the Islamist apologists. Oops, I forgot you can't say Islamist any more. So how is al-AP going to report this?

    P.S. I hear they had a fondness for a radical Australian cleric. What of that, Clete?
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    Apr 20, 2013, 07:21 AM
    I don't apologize for nut cases that use God's name in vain as they justify extreme bad behavior, be they from Islam, or Christian, Jew or whatever. These guys had as much in common with Islam, as the Klan has with Christianity.
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    Apr 20, 2013, 07:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I don't apologize for nut cases that use God's name in vain as they justify extreme bad behavior, be they from Islam, or Christian, Jew or whatever. These guys had as much in common with Islam, as the Klan has with Christianity.
    Ok, but should people remain in denial that the chief domain for terrorism is radical Islam? Yes, we darn sure need to stop tiptoeing around it, sensitivity be damned.
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    Apr 20, 2013, 08:08 AM
    Got to wonder about the parents.. the oldest son is named after a later day Genghis Kahn who roamed the areas around southern Russia ,Iran Turkey ,and most of the ummah trying to recreate the Khan dynasty as the self proclaimed "sword of Islam " .In the process he killed apx 17 million people... or about 5% of the world population at the time.
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    He was notorious for his brutality and butchery . He slaughtered all 80,000 residents of Delhi He built walls from the skulls of his victims .
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    Apr 21, 2013, 10:30 PM
    That was then, this is now. Recent events may have alienated him, particularly if the Russians had singled him out and in any event there has been plenty to radicalise Muslim youth. We are expecting problems when our muslim youth return from Syria and you might find the same problem
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    Apr 22, 2013, 03:17 AM
    I think soft targets is the next 'wave' .
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    Apr 22, 2013, 05:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I think soft targets is the next 'wave' .
    As opposed to tall buildings. Yes a small cell can accomplish much, in fact most of these attacks have been carried out by small cells and ithe idea of using IED's has been well proven in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's difficult if your enemy isn't going to face you with a gun, what good will your assault rifle be? What good will your hand gun be? Food for thought for the NRA. I expect the sales of bullet proof vests to be the next growth industry, if for no other reason than they are being supplied to Syrian rebels
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    Apr 22, 2013, 06:19 AM
    An 8th grader was suspended AND arrested for wearing a pro-second amendment shirt...

    When 8th grade Jared Marcum got dressed for school on Thursday he says he had no idea that his pro-Second Amendment shirt would initiate what he calls a fight over his First Amendment rights.

    "I never thought it would go this far because honestly I don't see a problem with this, there shouldn't be a problem with this," Jared said.

    It was the image of a gun printed on Jared's t-shirt that sparked a dispute between a Logan Middle School teacher and Jared, that ended with Jared suspended, arrested and facing two charges, obstruction and disturbing the education process, on his otherwise spotless record.

    Jared's father Allen Lardieri says he's angry he had to rush from work to pick his son up from jail over something he says was blown way out of proportion.

    "I don't' see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a t-shirt, especially when policy doesn't forbid it," Lardieri said.

    The Logan County School District's dress code policy prohibits clothing that displays profanity, violence, discriminatory messages and more but nowhere in the document does it say anything about gun images.

    "He did not violate any school policy," Lardieri reiterates. "He did not become aggressive."
    Go ahead, tell us how evil the kid is.
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    Apr 22, 2013, 06:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    An 8th grader was suspended AND arrested for wearing a pro-second amendment shirt...



    Go ahead, tell us how evil the kid is.
    Exactly... now the left is going after the first amendment now too.

    I bet there would have been no issue if the T-SHirt supported communism.
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    Apr 22, 2013, 06:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    An 8th grader was suspended AND arrested for wearing a pro-second amendment shirt...



    Go ahead, tell us how evil the kid is.
    No what's evil is the parent or person who gave the child a political T shirt and radicalised him a a young age. The school is correct to discipline him
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    Apr 22, 2013, 07:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    no what's evil is the parent or person who gave the child a political T shirt and radicalised him a a young age. The school is correct to discipline him
    No it isn't.. its BS that he got disciplined for something so stupid... that not only ISN'T wrong... its not even illegal.

    I bet the school would have looked the other way if it was a pro-abortion t-shirt... of a same sex marriage t-shirt.

    Being Pro-gun isn't "radicalized"... it called being AMERICAN. A concept a lot of non-Americans can't grasp...

    We have something they don't have... a Second Amendment RIGHT.. to own guns...
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    Apr 22, 2013, 07:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    no what's evil is the parent or person who gave the child a political T shirt and radicalised him a a young age. The school is correct to discipline him
    If standing up for your rights is a radical idea then they are going to be coming after a lot of us. Why is it so radical to teach your child to hunt?

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