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    #181

    Apr 19, 2013, 08:06 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Don't let Slime dude upset you, use your remote, or computer to follow more credible news sources. I do.
    Upset? Nah, these moronic liberal media types are entertainment. At least you acknowledge more credible news sources than the Slimes.

    Next up, it's come to this... the good Dems in Maryland really are going to tax you for getting rained on.
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    #182

    Apr 19, 2013, 08:32 AM
    http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/...ct%20sheet.pdf

    You do want clean drinking water don't you?
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    #183

    Apr 19, 2013, 08:46 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/...ct%20sheet.pdf

    You do want clean drinking water don't you?
    Who doesn't? This isn't about clean drinking water, this is about money. You want to stop pollution you regulate pollutants, not runoff, or in this case taxing you because it rained. Rain is good, rain is necessary, you don't tax people on the damn weather.
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    #184

    Apr 19, 2013, 08:57 AM
    Clean water costs money, and unmanaged run off can cause pollutants. I lived along Lake Michigan, and know that water treatment and run off management is a crucial part of clean drinking water.

    All the creeks and rivers swollen with rain water creates many hazards from pollutants, human sewage being chief among them. Its just not healthy to anyone, humans, fish, or wildlife. When you flush your crap goes somewhere.
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    #185

    Apr 19, 2013, 08:58 AM
    Hello again,

    Nestlé CEO says water is food that should be privatized – NOT a human right..

    Do you believe water is a basic human right? According to Nestlé CEO water is a foodstuff that should be privatized, not a human right. Nestlé CEO Peter Brabeck says that with the global population rising water is not a public right, but a resource that should be managed by businessmen.
    What could go wrong?

    Excon
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    #186

    Apr 19, 2013, 09:04 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Nestlé CEO says water is food that should be privatized – NOT a human right..



    What could go wrong?

    excon
    Nothing, as long as they can make a profit from it. Whether you can afford to buy enough to keep you alive is not their concern. Silly of you to think the free market is FREE!!
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    #187

    Apr 19, 2013, 09:29 AM
    Lol ,I thought the left loved things like trading carbon markets. Why not set up a global water credit system or futures that could be traded on the open market ? What could go wrong ? The same principles apply... when the price goes up then demand goes down... right ?

    Here's the deal. My village used to have it's own public water.. They frankly sucked at running it . They eventually sold the assets to a private company United Water ,that privately runs the water service for our entire county . Fresh clean water flows from our faucets .
    United Water is one of them greedy capitalist for profit companies . They also provide clean water to communies in 25 different states in the country .You may think that your water comes from a pubicly run source . But odds are it doesn't
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    #188

    Apr 19, 2013, 09:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    clean water costs money, and unmanaged run off can cause pollutants. I lived along lake michigan, and know that water treatment and run off management is a crucial part of clean drinking water.

    All the creeks and rivers swollen with rain water creates many hazards from pollutants, human sewage being chief among them. Its just not healthy to anyone, humans, fish, or wildlife. When you flush your crap goes somewhere.
    Smh...
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    #189

    Apr 19, 2013, 11:18 AM
    Should it matter if the water company is public, or private? The standards should be the same shouldn't it?
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    #190

    Apr 19, 2013, 11:24 AM
    And they are.. but private industry runs them better .
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    #191

    Apr 19, 2013, 12:17 PM
    Hello again, tom:

    but private industry runs them better .
    Is it BETTER to give water to those who can't afford it? Probably not, huh? The moochers!

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    #192

    Apr 19, 2013, 12:32 PM
    Sure, I'll give anyone a drink who needs it. Now can we stop taxing the weather?
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    #193

    Apr 19, 2013, 01:47 PM
    Well if you aren't buying it in a Nestles bottle ,tap water is fairly cheap. I'm sure those who can't afford it are on public assistance of some kind.
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    #194

    Apr 19, 2013, 03:10 PM
    Hello again,

    I'm sure those who can't afford it are on public assistance of some kind.
    What if it was a town or a city like Detroit? What if it became scarce? Will only the rich be able to quench their thirst?? Should the thirsty moochers be able to drink?

    What if a wealthy Mexican bought ALL the water in the Colorado river? Would it matter to the Imperial Valley, Las Vegas or Los Angeles?

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    #195

    Apr 19, 2013, 05:01 PM
    Even in the worse situation I don't see a municipality /city county whatever doing a better job managing the operation of the water supply more efficiently than a private company. Even if it is publicly owned ,it is better managed as an Investor-Owned Utility. In your heart you know I am right about this .Municipal water utilities are, piggy banks and slush funds for local politicians. Private ownership drives waste out and forces accountability to customers, regulators, shareholders . Municipal ownership does none of this. Further ,government run utilities and their regulators are working for the same boss . It is a clear conflict of interest.
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    #196

    Apr 20, 2013, 02:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Sure, I'll give anyone a drink who needs it. Now can we stop taxing the weather?
    I wonder if I'd get a tax break for collecting run off ? Many states don't permit that .
    Collecting rainwater now illegal in many states as Big Government claims ownership over our water
    What a conundrum ! Taxed if rain runs off your property and fined if you collect it !
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    #197

    Apr 20, 2013, 05:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I wonder if I'd get a tax break for collecting run off ? Many states don't permit that .
    Collecting rainwater now illegal in many states as Big Government claims ownership over our water
    What a conundrum ! Taxed if rain runs off your property and fined if you collect it !
    But the gubmint is only there to help and to protect you from yourself and things like, struggling entrepreneurs...

    Pinup Panini Food Truck Quits Over Proposed Regulations

    Like most regs liberals love this protects the entrenched interests and hurts the little guy.
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    #198

    Apr 20, 2013, 06:33 AM
    Speech and Tom I sometimes wonder what is going on too. Where I live we are not allowed to have rainwater collection tanks yet this is dry part of the country, on the coast where rain is plentiful they must have rain water collection tanks. This nonsense is world wide
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    #199

    Apr 20, 2013, 06:34 AM
    Yup I know the racket.. they don't want clerical office workers to run out and get quick inexpensive lunches... not when there are brick and mortar sit down restaurants that will serve a higher priced version of the sandwich .Nor do they want start up entrepreneurs running independent sandwich trucks.. not when franchised roach coaches dominate the market. It's just like the independent taxi industry that is being destroyed in DC .Only the cronies can afford the medallions ;and only the crony lunch truck operations will get the prime locations of operation. Government at it's best.
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    #200

    Apr 20, 2013, 06:50 AM
    At least in our fairly dry location officials encourage us to collect rainwater. If you ask me any rain that falls on my property is mine for the taking.

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