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    Apr 17, 2013, 07:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Not to mention the lefties have actually said they want a complete registry so they know who has what so they can take them next like Hitlers brownshirts.
    Please cite your source.
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    #702

    Apr 17, 2013, 07:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Not to mention the lefties have actually said they want a complete registry so they know who has what so they can take them next like Hitlers brownshirts.
    Paranoia, how long can a nation exist in a paranoid state before your worst nightmares become reality?
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    #703

    Apr 17, 2013, 07:50 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Obamacare hasn't started yet.
    And yet its already sucking the treasury dry.
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    Apr 17, 2013, 07:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    And yet its already sucking the treasury dry.
    And why? No reason for panic. Insurance companies, doctors, and hospitals only stand to make more money from Obamacare.
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    #705

    Apr 17, 2013, 09:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    And why? No reason for panic. Insurance companies, doctors, and hospitals only stand to make more money from Obamacare.
    And we know that means they pay more in tax adding to revenue, so obamacare must be good for the economy?
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    #706

    Apr 18, 2013, 03:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Obamacare hasn't started yet.
    Yes parts of it have already begun to rear its ugly head.
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    #707

    Apr 18, 2013, 05:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    Yes parts of it have already begun to rear its ugly head.
    Before you know it we'll all have part time jobs.
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    #708

    Apr 18, 2013, 05:08 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Please cite your source.
    Nearly every prominint democrat has flat out said it... pick one.
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    #709

    Apr 18, 2013, 05:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    And why? No reason for panic. Insurance companies, doctors, and hospitals only stand to make more money from Obamacare.
    Have you talked to any Doctors or Nurses? I know many that are going to shut down their offices rather than deal with the costs of Obamacare... which would mean they would be having to actually pay out of their pockets to remain open... because costs will far excede what they get paid for services. I know Only one that isn't worried... every other one expects to shut down... or get laid off as a result when it kicks in all the way.
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    #710

    Apr 18, 2013, 05:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Have you talked to any Doctors or Nurses? I know many that are going to shut down their offices rather than deal with the costs of Obamacare ...which would mean they would be having to actually pay out of their pockets to remain open....because costs will far excede what they get paid for services. I know Only one that isn't worried....every other one expects to shut down...or get laid off as a result when it kicks in all the way.
    Sounds good we have a shortage of trained medical staff here and before I'm accused of being racist, we would like to get some who speak english, so send them our way
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    Apr 18, 2013, 05:17 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    sounds good we have a shortage of trained medical staff here and before I'm accused of being racist, we would like to get some who speak english, so send them our way
    Not sure many of them would want to make that move... hell, that's a major trip even for a vacation. (one of the reasons I've never been there yet). Moving a household full of stuff would be incredibly expensive not to mention a logistical nightmare since most doctors own their own houses and are established in many ways making moving very difficult.

    I've moved back and forth to Europe twice from the USA... and that was a PITA even though at the time I was able to fit everything I owned in a 20 foot Shipping container. I'd need at least 3, 40 foot ones these days... without my vehicles.

    But I understand your sympathy on the English speaking ones... we have plenty of Indian, and Pakistani doctors and dentists here... (Iranians too) At least most of the ones I've dealt with spoke really good english. My last two dentists have been Iranian expats...
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    Apr 18, 2013, 05:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Not sure many of them would want to make that move....hell, thats a major trip even for a vacation. Moving a household full of stuff would be incredible expensive not to mention a logistical nightmare.

    I've moved back and forth to Europe twice from the USA....and that was a PITA even though at the time I was able to fit everything I owned in a 20 foot Shipping container. I'd need at least 3, 40 foot ones these days...without my vehicles.

    But I understand your sympathy on the English speaking ones...we have plenty of Indian, and Pakistani doctors and dentists here... (Iranians too) At least most of the ones I've dealt with spoke really good english. My last two dentists have been Iranian expats....
    If things are so bad over there they could sell up and buy new here, the appliances won't work here anyway without a transformer and we have good quality furniture and cars too, we have those too these days, what we don't have is guns so I expect you wouldn't want to come

    You must be getting the ones who speak english what we get are the ones who mumble something unintelligable
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    Apr 18, 2013, 05:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    If things are so bad over there they could sell up and buy new here, the appliances won't work here anyway without a transformer and we have good quality furniture and cars too, we have those too these days, what we don't have is guns so I expect you wouldn't want to come

    You must be getting the ones who speak english what we get are the ones who mumble something unintelligable
    Well,since I live in a major Metropolitan area... I suspect many of the ones with lesser English skills end up in the more rural areas... from what I've heard we have our share of ones that don't speak English all that well... but I haven't encountered them myself. That I remember anyway. But then I have a knack for understanding people that aren't exactly fluent in English... that other people flat out can't understand.

    Most of the issues I've seen with Indians (personally)... isn't their language skills... its their people skills. Some of them define the word arrogant. The ones I know are either incredibly friendly or incredibly arrogant... none in the middle.

    Appliances in the USA... (washers, driers, Diswashers stoves and cabinets) usually stay with the house when you sell it, or rent it out... unlike most of the rest of the world.

    Dumping everything at a steep loss to buy everything new... would be a pretty big expense... for people that aren't renters. Yes I know Australia isn't a third world country.

    Though I'm not familiar with medical liscensing requirements... and what might be involved there.
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    #714

    Apr 18, 2013, 06:16 AM
    Source... how about Dem Senator Max Baucus . He calls Obamacare a train wreck... and he voted for it .

    Obamacare Is A 'Huge Train Wreck': Democrat Senator
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    Apr 18, 2013, 10:59 AM
    Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut has Republicans down...

    In an appearance on The Rachel Maddow Show, the Democratic senator told Maddow that Republicans have “made it clear that they are just kind of gun-control Darwinists at this point.” ”They just think they we should give a whole bunch of guns to the good guys and to the bad guys, and let them shoot it out, and hope that the good guys win,” he said. “That’s their agenda.”
    Yeah that's it exactly. I'm sure idiotic things like that are exactly what Dems need to reverse Obama's major fail on gun control.
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    #716

    Apr 18, 2013, 11:03 AM
    Relax its just the beginning. I guess you are too young to remember how long it took for a gun control bill to pass the last time.
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    Apr 18, 2013, 11:03 AM
    It also shows you don't have to be very intelligent to run for office and win as a Democrat, in blue states. I bet he has trouble tieing his own shoes.
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    #718

    Apr 18, 2013, 11:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Relax its just the beginning. I guess you are too young to remember how long it took for a gun control bill to pass the last time.
    So you really want another shooting war on US soil then... because if they try to disarm the people... its going to happen... as well it should.
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    Apr 18, 2013, 11:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    So you really want another shooting war on US soil then...because if they try to disarm the people...its going to happen...as well it should.
    No one wants to disarm anyone who is responsible and law abiding.
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    Apr 18, 2013, 11:23 AM
    Hello smoothy:

    .. because if they try to disarm the people... its going to happen... as well it should.
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