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    #661

    Apr 17, 2013, 06:24 AM
    No sir, you're wrong. I may enjoy tweaking you libs but I have no interest in dividing this country, especially after a tragedy.
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    #662

    Apr 17, 2013, 06:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Ok, my questions are too hard. Here's an easier one... I say the odds are 4 to 1 that the Boston Bomber was a right wing American nut and not a Jihadist.

    Are you wingers HOPING it wasn't? You're not sure, are you?

    excon
    Odds are it's a left wing loon... most of the previous ones have been. History has proven that to be the case.

    Only ONE hasn't been that wasn't a Muslim.

    THe Unibomber... THe Weather Underground... occupy Wallstreet... the loon that shot Gabby Giffords... William Ayers, Obamas buddy... etc... etc...
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    #663

    Apr 17, 2013, 06:38 AM
    Hello again, Steve:
    I have no interest in dividing this country, especially after a tragedy.
    I'm confused.. How does speculating on who the bomber is, divide the country? Seems to me, if it WAS a right winger, HE's dividing the country - not you or me.

    And, no. You're NOT responsible if it was - just like the Muslim down the street isn't responsible if a jihadist did it.

    Excon
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    #664

    Apr 17, 2013, 06:41 AM
    The left has completely lost their marbles... they blamed the Gabby Gifford shooting on Sarah Palin and the right... even AFTER they had proof the guy was yet another left wing loon.

    And the same bunch of deranged loons are blaming it on the right before anyone has even proven it wasn't another Towelhead Muslim...

    Has anyone proven it wasn't Joe Biden? Where was he at that day? Maybe it was BArney Frank... he was in Boston that day and we all know that fool can't even control his own bowel movements.
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    #665

    Apr 17, 2013, 06:47 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:
    I'm confused.. How does speculating on who the bomber is, divide the country? Seems to me, if it WAS a right winger, HE's dividing the country - not you or me.
    And so is everyone playing the blame game.

    And, no. You're NOT responsible if it was - just like the Muslim down the street isn't responsible if a jihadist did it.

    Excon
    Dude, I've been saying that sort of thing for years, you finally agree?
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    #666

    Apr 17, 2013, 07:04 AM
    Hello again, smoothy:

    I don't know WHY you open yourself up to stuff like this, but it works for me...

    Tim McVeigh,
    right winger, committed the DEADLIEST act of terrorism within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks

    McVeigh hoped to inspire a revolt against what he considered to be a tyrannical federal government. Sound familiar?

    excon
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    Apr 17, 2013, 07:07 AM
    OK I'll speculate...

    Naser Jason Abdo, an Army private arrested in 2011 for plotting to blow up a restaurant full of GIs had 2 pressure cooker bombs . Also Faisal Shahzad had a pressure cooker bomb in the van he rented when he attempted the Times Square bombing .

    So the last 2 times a pressure cooker bombing was attempted in the United States ;it was a jihadist.. So I think the odds are much greater that it was this time again...

    I'll go into even greater speculation . Iran has been threatening to make attacks inside the US for months now. However ,it would be a bad idea for them to be conclusively tied directly to such an attack. So the type of device that has been employed rather frequently by AQ in their terror campaign in the ummah was the weapon of choice ,because the bombs “carry the hallmark of an organized terrorist group, like al-Qaeda.”
    Saudi Terror Cell, Possibly Al Qaeda, Behind Boston Marathon Bombings
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    #668

    Apr 17, 2013, 07:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:

    I dunno WHY you open yourself up to stuff like this, but it works for me...

    Tim McVeigh,
    right winger, committed the DEADLIEST act of terrorism within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks

    McVeigh hoped to inspire a revolt against what he considered to be a tyrannical federal government. Sound familiar?

    excon
    I know you are smarter than that excon... thats the only one you can pullup and that was 18 years ago when the left has been responsible for HOW many in the years since? How about ALL of them?
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    #669

    Apr 17, 2013, 07:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    The left has completely lost their marbles....they blamed the Gabby Gifford shooting on Sarah Palin and the right.....even AFTER they had proof the guy was yet another left wing loon.

    And the same bunch of deranged loons are blaming it on the right before anyone has even proven it wasn't another Towelhead Muslim.....

    Has anyone proven it wasn't Joe Biden? Where was he at that day? Maybe it was BArney Frank...he was in Boston that day and we all know that fool can't even control his own bowel movements.
    If it's a lefty bomber then in a decade or so ,that person will have a job teaching at Columbia U
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    Apr 17, 2013, 07:12 AM
    Speculation, you have pissed a whole lot of people off, I'm surprised you aren't blaming Kim Jung Un-cool, after all he promised to attack america with small devices.

    All right I agree it is probably a jihadist of some ilk, did you blow up a mosque or burn a koran sometime?
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    Apr 17, 2013, 07:15 AM
    No ; Iran threatened us because we are the only ones standing in the way from them achieving their goal of an Iranian bomb. They don't care about their Korans and mosques. They are the ones that blow them up ;not us.
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    #672

    Apr 17, 2013, 07:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    no ; Iran threatened us because we are the only ones standing in the way from them achieving their goal of an Iranian bomb. They don't care about their Korans and mosques. They are the ones that blow them up ;not us.
    So you don't believe their religious leaders who say that a nuclear device is against their principles?
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    #673

    Apr 17, 2013, 07:21 AM
    Hello clete:

    did you blow up a mosque or burn a koran sometime?
    You presume they're NOT mad at us now, but if burned a Koran, THEN they would attack us...

    In MY view, the reason they HAVEN'T attacked us is because we thwarted every attempt they've made so far - NOT because they're busy at the mall.

    But, I DO agree. It's the prevailing though... You remember all those right wingers who thought we'd be attacked if we brought Kalid Sheik Mohammad to NY?? That was stupid too.

    Excon
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    #674

    Apr 17, 2013, 07:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello clete:

    You presume they're NOT mad at us now, but if burned a Koran, THEN they would attack us...

    In MY view, the reason they HAVEN'T attacked us is because we thwarted every attempt they've made so far - NOT because they're busy at the mall.

    But, I DO agree. It's the prevailing though... You remember all those right wingers who thought we'd be attacked if we brought Kalid Sheik Mohammad to NY??? That was stupid too.

    excon
    Ex you are a target of opportunity anytime, it just seems that there a only a few of these guys at any time, you were fortunate previously, this time they got through, but you only have to cross them once and they have an undieing hatred
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    #675

    Apr 17, 2013, 07:33 AM
    Hello again, clete:

    Couple things... If it was jihadists, they would have claimed responsibility for it by now.. They're NOT ashamed..

    Secondly, these were crude, VERY crude, small bombs. The jihadists would have built a BIGGER one, and I think they would have aimed at a building..

    But, WE'LL see. I HOPE I'm wrong... I don't want to believe that ANY American is capable of doing this.

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    #676

    Apr 17, 2013, 07:38 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    speculation, you have pissed a whole lot of people off, I'm surprised you arn't blaming Kim Jung Un-cool, afterall he promised to attack america with small devices.

    Alright I agree it is probably a jihadist of some ilk, did you blow up a mosque or burn a koran sometime?
    If he tried attacking American Women with his small device most of them would laugh at it.
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    #677

    Apr 17, 2013, 07:59 AM
    Back to the gun control issue, only 4% of Americans think gun control is the biggest issue facing America. Any guesses on what is? Anything? Anything? Anything Obama is not running around the country addressing??

    Few in U.S. See Guns, Immigration as Nation's Top Problems
    The economy and jobs continue to be named as most important U.S. problems
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    #678

    Apr 17, 2013, 08:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, clete:

    Couple things... If it was jihadists, they would have claimed responsibility for it by now.. They're NOT ashamed..

    Secondly, these were crude, VERY crude, small bombs. The jihadists would have built a BIGGER one, and I think they would have aimed at a building..

    But, WE'LL see. I HOPE I'm wrong... I don't wanna believe that ANY American is capable of doing this.

    excon
    Umm no... the nature of their attacks have clearly changed to lone wolf or small cell operations of jihadists who are more likely than not domestic recruits who watch jihadist video on the net. They do not always claim credit . They did not claim credit for Major Hasan even though his attack on Fort Hood was a jihadist lone wolf operation.

    Edit... also the pressure cooker bomb is standard issue in the Middle East . Look it up.
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    #679

    Apr 17, 2013, 08:46 AM
    They don't have to be jihadists as there are enough home grown hate sites and groups to trigger some loony to action.
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    #680

    Apr 17, 2013, 08:47 AM
    Like Major Nidal Malik Hasan who killed 13... and the PTUS refuses to call a terrorist.. even though he was praising his pedophile god when he did it.

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