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Apr 8, 2013, 09:02 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
What do you think the FEMA camps are for?
excon
Parents who believe their children belong to them and not the "village"?
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Apr 8, 2013, 09:04 AM
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We have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents”
"you didn't make that on your own!"
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Apr 8, 2013, 09:17 AM
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Link please for context. I would hate to think they meant "no man is an island" without proof.
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Apr 8, 2013, 09:32 AM
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Apr 8, 2013, 09:42 AM
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In the liberal's world you can choose to kill your baby but you can't choose how to raise the child.
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Apr 8, 2013, 11:16 AM
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As usual I didn't get the threat from this clip as you did.
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Apr 8, 2013, 11:22 AM
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"We have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents”
Agree or disagree?
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Apr 8, 2013, 12:04 PM
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Either put the whole thing up, or take down that partial statement. That's a BS tactic.
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Apr 8, 2013, 12:59 PM
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 Originally Posted by talaniman
Either put the whole thing up, or take down that partial statement. That's a BS tactic.
Tal, I linked to the video in full and so did tom so don't give me that "BS tactic" crap, I hid nothing.
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Apr 8, 2013, 02:26 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
This is clearly within the context of public education. The reference is to the collective responsibility of public education.
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Apr 8, 2013, 02:37 PM
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Collective that is communist ideology
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Apr 8, 2013, 02:47 PM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
collective that is communist ideology
The article is quoting out of context even though it proved a full transcript of the interview at the bottom of the article by way of the video This has obviously been missed by the author or he is trying to create a beat-up
This idea of community responsibility in education has been in even when my kids went to school. Back then I think it was called community partnerships in education.
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Apr 8, 2013, 03:16 PM
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Ah yes trying to pass the buck
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Apr 8, 2013, 04:00 PM
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"Community" has a role, but saying we have to discard this idea that children don't belong to their parents is beyond the pale. That is how the left in this country justifies undermining parental authority in this country and that's a problem. Parents have rights.
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Apr 8, 2013, 04:14 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
"Community" has a role, but saying we have to discard this idea that children don't belong to their parents is beyond the pale. That is how the left in this country justifies undermining parental authority in this country and that's a problem. Parents have rights.
I agree Speech, parents are the primary care givers and if doing their job properly, the primary educators and they should have the ability to both guide and discipline, it is all this namby pamby nonsense that has our societry in the mess it is in
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Apr 9, 2013, 03:23 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
"Community" has a role, but saying we have to discard this idea that children don't belong to their parents is beyond the pale. That is how the left in this country justifies undermining parental authority in this country and that's a problem. Parents have rights.
Quoting out of context is usually an easy option because it can portray a persons views as being extreme.
This particular lady may well have extreme views on many social issues. But the quote is clearly a reference to public education. On this basis it can only be considered in these terms. It cannot be taken as a general endorsement of undermining parental authority in general.
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Apr 9, 2013, 03:29 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I say it's ridiculous. Again from the article:
I have no problem recruiting minorities, but reverse the situation and put those words coming out of a conservative's mouth. "Every lifeguard is black, and we don't like that." That wouldn't disturb anyone would it?
This would depend on who the spokesperson is. Criticizing ones own race is not usually regarded as racism. I can be, but in this case it doesn't seem to be.
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Apr 9, 2013, 03:36 AM
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 Originally Posted by paraclete
ah yes trying to pass the buck
I like that. I never thought of that angle.
Tut
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Apr 9, 2013, 03:56 AM
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 Originally Posted by Tuttyd
Quoting out of context is usually an easy option because it can portray a persons views as being extreme.
This particular lady may well have extreme views on many social issues. But the quote is clearly a reference to public education. On this basis it can only be considered in these terms. It cannot be taken as a general endorsement of undermining parental authority in general.
There is more than a minor difference in "justification" which is what I said and "general endorsement." The reality on the ground supports my view.
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Apr 9, 2013, 03:59 AM
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 Originally Posted by Tuttyd
This would depend on who the spokesperson is. Criticizing ones own race is not usually regarded as racism. I can be, but in this case it doesn't seem to be.
Again, I base this on the reality. The reality is my example would lead to an explosion of outrage.
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