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smoothy · Apr 4, 2013, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by paraclete

well Tal if he's not a country boy and he's not a city boy he must be from the burbs or one of those himigrants

Still bouncing all over the place... proof neither of you know as much as you think... and have been quessing way wrong.. which is no surprise since you guess way wrong on a lot of things.

talaniman · Apr 4, 2013, 07:58 AM

So far I have only seen the bad guys reload, and kill more people, and have yet to see any example of a good guy doing the same to save himself, or anyone else. If you know of such an example of the good guys reloading to save the day, please share it.

I am not against gun, or the rights of citizens to have them for any reason. Quite the opposite and have said so.

speechlesstx · Apr 4, 2013, 08:27 AM

And the only time you will likely ever hear about reloading in the media is to fuel the hysterics over guns. It really doesn't matter if we have any examples or not, I don't like the idea of morons who have no clue how guns work and are OK with me being dead anyway limiting my ability to protect myself and my family to 7 bullets, or none if they have their way.

Wondergirl · Apr 4, 2013, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

limiting my ability to protect myself and my family to 7 bullets

Have you ever had to protect your family with more than two bullets?

smoothy · Apr 4, 2013, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Have you ever had to protect your family with more than two bullets?

Why should any American ever be restricted to how many they can have in the first place, or what type?

What part of "Shall not be abridged" do they not understand... perhaps its time we start abridging the freedom of the press and free speech to the same standards...

By that argument... the Police should not own ANY automatic weapons... they don't NEED them.

excon · Apr 4, 2013, 08:39 AM

Hello smoothy:

What part of "well REGULATED" do YOU not get?

excon

speechlesstx · Apr 4, 2013, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Have you ever had to protect your family with more than two bullets?

Well now that's about as silly a question as I've ever seen.

Why carry a spare condom? The one that's been in your wallet for 8 months isn't going to break and hey, you only have to stop that one sperm that's going to get though anyhow, right?

Wondergirl · Apr 4, 2013, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Well now that's about as silly a question as I've ever seen.

Why carry a spare condom? The one that's been in your wallet for 8 months isn't going to break and hey, you only have to stop that one sperm that's gonna get though anyhow, right?

The old condom not longer works and that stray sperm is very very very fast.

So you've never had to protect your family by using a gun?

speechlesstx · Apr 4, 2013, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

The old condom not longer works and that stray sperm is very very very fast.

So you've never had to protect your family by using a gun?

Hopefully I never will. Is there a point to this? If there is, spit it out.

Wondergirl · Apr 4, 2013, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Hopefully I never will. Is there a point to this? If there is, spit it out.

In 50+ years, my husband has never needed a gun to defend his family, but twice he has almost shot a neighbor and once almost shot me. I wonder how many times legal guns end up wounding and killing family members, neighbors, friends, relatives, but never are used on an intruder. I wonder what the ratio is.

speechlesstx · Apr 4, 2013, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

In 50+ years, my husband has never needed a gun to defend his family, but twice he has almost shot a neighbor and once almost shot me. I wonder how many times legal guns end up wounding and killing family members, neighbors, friends, relatives, but never are used on an intruder. I wonder what the ratio is.

Maybe your husband shouldn't have a gun, sounds like he's shooting at the wrong people. Don't stop me from from having the capacity to defend my family because your hubby is incompetent with a gun. I cut off part of a finger with a jointer and I'm not trying to keep others from using one.

Wondergirl · Apr 4, 2013, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Maybe your husband shouldn't have a gun, sounds like he's shooting at the wrong people. Don't stop me from from having the capacity to defend my family because your hubby is incompetent with a gun. I cut off part of a finger with a jointer and I'm not trying to keep others from using one.

Like I said, I'd love to see the ratio. The very fact he hasn't killed anyone gives me hope. And hope for the rest of the NRA crowd.

smoothy · Apr 4, 2013, 09:24 AM

I'm curious how you almost shoot a neighbor... or a spouse? Unless you were playing with it like a toy or carelessly brandishing it around.

I'm 51... I've never almost shot a neighbor or my wife... even once, not by accident... and not on purpose either..

I did almost shoot someone during hunting season once... but that's only because the dimwit ran in front of me just as I was ready to kill a deer (that was only 20 yards away. Yes... one eye closed... eye on the scope... and starting to squeese the trigger when suddenly my view of the deer went black instantly.

Catsmine · Apr 4, 2013, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

I'm curious how you almost shoot a neighbor...or a spouse? Unless you were playing with it like a toy or carelessly brandishing it around.

I'm 51.....I've never almost shot a neighbor or my wife...even once, not by accident....and not on purpose either..

I did almost shoot someone during hunting season once...but thats only because the dimwit ran in front of me just as I was ready to kill a deer (that was only 20 yards away. Yes...one eye closed...eye on the scope...and starting to squeese the trigger when suddenly my view of the deer went black instantly.

The only people I've ever aimed at are waiting for me at the brass gates, if you believe that sort of thing. Obviously WG's hubby needed some safety instruction, or some more. To find "accidental" shootings, one should probably research negligent homicide statistics.

smoothy · Apr 4, 2013, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Catsmine

The only people I've ever aimed at are waiting for me at the brass gates, if you believe that sort of thing. Obviously WG's hubby needed some safety instruction, or some more. To find "accidental" shootings, one should probably research negligent homicide statistics.

And every one of those were preventible if someone hadn't done something stupid... like trying to clean a gun before they VERIFY its actually unloaded.

Any gun you pick up you ASSUME is loaded... until you prove it otherwise.

Most of the time... accidental.. equates with someone not following the most basic rules of gun safety.

speechlesstx · Apr 4, 2013, 09:54 AM

You mean like not pointing a loaded gun with your finger on the trigger toward the yard your children are playing in?

Wondergirl · Apr 4, 2013, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

I'm curious how you almost shoot a neighbor...or a spouse? Unless you were playing with it like a toy or carelessly brandishing it around.

Nope. He was defending his family. Safety is his middle name.

Wondergirl · Apr 4, 2013, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Most of the time...accidental..equates with someone not following the most basic rules of gun safety.

Except for the family suicides and kids playing with unsecured and loaded guns. And Adam Lanza types.

smoothy · Apr 4, 2013, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Except for the family suicides and kids playing with unsecured and loaded guns. And Adam Lanza types.

THose kids need a very healthy spanking the FIRST time they get caught touching them...

If nothing was done then it's the parents fault for not instilling the fear of god in them for playing with stuff not theirs.

I gew up around guns... we never had a single event where we played with them... not the real ones.

Catsmine · Apr 4, 2013, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

THose kids need a very healthy spanking the FIRST time they get caught touching them.....

if nothing was done then its the parents fault for not instilling the fear of god in them for playing with stuff not theirs.

I gew up around guns....we never had a single event where we played with them...not the real ones.

My kids had had the full NRA safety course before they could read. At 6 they could deep-clean both rifles and shotguns. We added pistols by age 12. The reason these tools are called 'dangerous' is the people doing the calling are ignorant. A crane in my hands is VERY dangerous, because I have no clue how to operate it. Hand tools, not so much