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    #261

    Mar 31, 2013, 06:03 AM
    Can you blame them Ex? Its easier to repeal the gains of the last century, than accept them. That's their only HOPE, to stifle CHANGE.
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    #262

    Mar 31, 2013, 06:05 AM
    Lot's of people will DIE as a result.
    That horse left the barn when it became legal nationally . 50million plus people have died .
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    #263

    Mar 31, 2013, 06:12 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    If you outlawed abortion, you won't get RID of it. You'll only drive it underground. Lot's of people will DIE as a result.

    You people REALLY did think you could outlaw pot, and it would just magically go away, didn't you??? Was that DUMB??? It was.. Is outlawing abortion dumb? It IS.

    excon
    Kind of like what happens when the government taxes the hell out of people, they don't just magically start handing over their cash. Or gun control, taxing smokes, banning sodas...
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    #264

    Mar 31, 2013, 06:37 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    that horse left the barn when it became legal nationally . 50million plus people have died .
    Of what and when?
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    #265

    Mar 31, 2013, 07:57 AM
    50 million + babies aborted .A holocaust that rival's Stalin's reign of terror .
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    #266

    Mar 31, 2013, 08:11 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    50 million + babies aborted .A holocaust that rival's Stalin's reign of terror .
    Wikipedia -- "According to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), since 1973, roughly 50 million legal induced abortions have been performed in the United States." Many of those babies, had they been allowed to live, would be on public aid now, and with contraception not paid for by insurance, the number would have been even higher.
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    #267

    Mar 31, 2013, 08:47 AM
    So you agree with "Doctor " Alberto Giubilini .If they are a burden they should be snuffed.
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    #268

    Mar 31, 2013, 08:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    so you agree with "Doctor " Alberto Giubilini .If they are a burden they should be snuffed.
    Not at all. I believe in parents teaching their teens to abstain until they are in a secure relationship and financially stable with a good job and decent living quarters and money in the bank.
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    #269

    Mar 31, 2013, 09:46 AM
    You and Speech are in favor of making women have these children, but what do you propose doing to help and support raising them once they are born? Be specific and show me where the alternatives to legal abortions is better.

    Or is it you think they should be punished for not practicing abstinence or having children out of wedlock? Again, what of the children that are born. From what I see we barely take care of the kids that are here let alone the ones to come.
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    #270

    Mar 31, 2013, 11:15 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You and Speech are in favor of making women have these children, but what do you propose doing to help and support raising them once they are born? Be specific and show me where the alternatives to legal abortions is better.

    Or is it you think they should be punished for not practicing abstinence or having children out of wedlock? Again, what of the children that are born. From what I see we barely take care of the kids that are here let alone the ones to come.
    What I'm in favor of is to stop pretending these aren't children.
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    #271

    Mar 31, 2013, 11:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What I'm in favor of is to stop pretending these aren't children.
    Okay. They are children born to young teen mothers who are still in middle school or early high school, the fathers are also in school or are dropouts, no one has money or a job or a clue how to care for these babies. Now what?
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    #272

    Mar 31, 2013, 02:36 PM
    What ever happened to adoption
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    #273

    Mar 31, 2013, 04:08 PM
    Yeah whatever happen to adoption? Kids are lucky to get in foster care.
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    #274

    Apr 1, 2013, 05:47 AM
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    #275

    Apr 1, 2013, 05:56 AM
    Look to the lower right of that picture and in Asia, that is what I prefer a large percentage of the population live without guns and without a high level of homicides. This is the message you fail to listen to. It is possible; you just have to try it
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    #276

    Apr 1, 2013, 05:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Look to the lower right of that picture and in Asia, that is what I prefer a large percentage of the population live without guns and without a high level of homicides. this is the message you fail to listen to. It is possible; you just have to try it
    No thanks... we don't enjoy the sort of Tyranny you call everyday life.
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    #277

    Apr 1, 2013, 06:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Yeah whatever happen to adoption? Kids are lucky to get in foster care.
    Are you familiar with the cost and the hurdles to adopt? Surely you are.
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    #278

    Apr 1, 2013, 08:18 AM
    Yeah, yeah, tell me about costs. And while your at it, tell me about the cost of raising babies that are wanted. Or the costs of putting kids in bad homes, or the cost of going to Russia and getting a kid you know nothing about.

    Every thing costs. Yeah, I know all about the cost of living, and dying in America.
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    #279

    Apr 1, 2013, 08:34 AM
    Hey, you asked what happened to adoption, it isn't that easy unless you have lots of money and lawyers.
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    #280

    Apr 1, 2013, 09:28 AM
    Its darn near impossible without money, lawyers... and accountants.

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