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johnc411 · Mar 25, 2013, 08:33 PM

My girl friend made a stew that she added 5 cups a wine to throughout the cooking process, along with beef stock in a crockpot. I ate three bowls of the stew on a Thursday night, the next day which was the 8th of the month, I had to do a ETG based Urine test. For the following week I had leftovers three or four times. A couple of days later on the 18th, every one was called in to do a second Urinalysis due to a holiday. I was notified on the 19th, that my UA from the 8th came back with positive alcohol in my Urine. It was suggested that they were going to look at the numbers to determine what the deal was.

My question based on the above, would the stew cause it, and if so, what would the numbers show? And if the stew was the culprit, what should I assume is going to happen on the UA test that was done on the 18th, just a couple of days after my last serving of the stew?

smoothy · Mar 26, 2013, 05:53 AM

Its possible.. as it depends on the cooking time. Most of the alcohol cooks off fairly quickly. (Boiling point: 173.1°F (78.37°C), water boils at 212... and a simmer is a slow boil.

However the point is you should not be injecting ANY substances with alcohol...

THey don't care of it was mouthwash.. a shot of whiskey of some stew or sauce that wasn't cooked long enough...

Alcohol is alcohol as far as the test is concerned. And you can't justify any of it regardless of the source.

5 cups is excessive for any recipie I've ever made... unless you are cooking a batch meant for 20 or more people. And I've spent 25 years around REAL Italian cooks.

johnc411 · Mar 26, 2013, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Its possible..as it depends on the cooking time.

However the point is you should not be injecting ANY substances with alcohol....

THey don't care of it was mouthwash..a shot of whiskey of some stew or sauce that wasn't cooked long enough...

Alcohol is alcohol as far as the test is concerned. And you can't justify any of it irregardless of the source.

5 cups is excessive for any recipie I've ever made....unless you are cooking a batch meant for 20 or more people. And I've spent 25 years around REAL Italian cooks.

The answers on here drive me crazy! I have been on parole for over 5 years. My crime has nothing to do with drugs or alcohol. In 5 years I have never had a dirty UA. This is the first one! And other than fondue and the stew made from a new girl friend, I don't drink, go to bars, etc. so please spare the lecture on you shouldn't drink and avoid the mouthwashes stuff. I have been avoiding this stuff for a long time. I would like real answers to my questions.

smoothy · Mar 26, 2013, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by johnc411

The answers on here drive me crazy! I have been on parole for over 5 years. My crime has nothing to do with drugs or alcohol. In 5 years I have never had a dirty UA. This is the first one! and other than fondue and the stew made from a new girl friend, I don't drink, go to bars, etc. so please spare the lecture on you shouldn't drink and avoid the mouthwashes stuff. I have been avoiding this stuff for a long time. I would like real answers to my questions.

First off Curb the attitude... you asked a question... you got an accurate answer... you agreed to the site rules when you signed up... you don't get to dictate who, how or what your answers will contain.

Well... you haven't been doing it obviously, you ate this stew KNOWING how much alcohol was in it when it was being mad (there is very little left in it if she cooked it right). This falls on you. I don't think this is really the whole story... because your whole attitude screams that there is al lot more your are hiding... and looking for something to blame.

The tests look for alcohol... they don't care where it came from... it really is that simple.

johnc411 · Mar 26, 2013, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Curb the attitude....

Well...you haven't been doing it obviously, you ate this stew KNOWING how much alcohol was in it when it was being made. This falls on you.

Actually I had no idea there was alcohol in it. When I was notified that I had a dirty UA from Alcohol, I was shocked. The only change in my life in the past two months is a new woman in my life. I immediately started trying to figure out where alcohol could have came from. I called my lady friend and asked her if anything she cooked had alcohol in it. She told me that she uses wine in just about everything. She told me that she starts with beef stock on her stew and then adds over five cups of wine throughout the cooking process in a huge crock pot. I wasn't there when she was cooking. I also went home looked through my bathroom cabinets of things I recently bought or used.

It may be hard for some to believe someone on parole but there is no way in hell after five years on this crap with only four months left that I would knowingly drink alcohol. It's not my M.O.

johnc411 · Mar 26, 2013, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

First off Curb the attitude....you asked a question...you got an accurate answer...you agreed to the site rules when you signed up...you don't get to dictate who, how or what your answers will contain.

Well...you haven't been doing it obviously, you ate this stew KNOWING how much alcohol was in it when it was being mad (there is very little left in it if she cooked it right). This falls on you. I don't think this is really the whole story....because your whole attitude screams that there is al lot more your are hiding....and looking for something to blame.

The tests look for alcohol....they don't care where it came from....it really is that simple.

Back to my

johnc411 · Mar 26, 2013, 06:40 AM

Back to my original question. Should I assume that if the stew is the culprit, and I had leftover stew a couple of days before the last test, I would have a second dirty UA. Will the tests show that it was wine? When she said they were waiting on the numbers, what should I expect that to show if it is wine? I am trying understand how the EtG test works.

I am also trying to go through any other possibility from bathroom stuff that I recently bought, dining out, etc.
So I want to understand the numbers so I can determine whether it was the wine or something else. I have already eliminated the food stuff from further consumption. Would wine show greater numbers vs say peryl rinse? That was the only other possibility which I have a dentist note to use.

smoothy · Mar 26, 2013, 06:59 AM

Ask her how long she simmered it AFTER she put the Wine in... seriously, this is important... Stew is cooked low and slow because it uses tough cuts of meat... its usually simmered for a couple hours.. its not something cooked quickly.

If she cooked if for say an hour or so after that... much of it with the lid off... nearly all of the alcohol should in all likelihood have cooked off. And then it it really shouldn't have had enough residual left in it to have not metabolised in the next day or so. Then you would be needing to look at other sources.

Depending on the actual terms of your parol/probation A doctors excuse may not be accepted on certain medications etc. Make no assupmtions.