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    #281

    Mar 23, 2013, 10:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I listen to Pete Seeger when I have a case of insomnia .........instant cure !
    He used to be a force to be reckoned with, apparently. "We Shall Overcome" stuck daggers in the hearts of conservatives.
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    Mar 23, 2013, 10:33 AM
    Oh I like the way other artists have done his songs.
    "We Shall Overcome" stuck daggers in the hearts of conservatives.
    no it didn't .It stuck a dagger in the hearts of southern Democrats .
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    Mar 23, 2013, 11:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    oh I like the way other artists have done his songs.
    no it didn't .It stuck a dagger in the hearts of southern Democrats .
    At that college I attended, they were Midwestern Republicans.
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    #284

    Mar 23, 2013, 12:17 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    What? Post opinion pieces? All except the "stomp on Jesus" (which I find reprehensible as well) are opinion pieces. That's not facts.

    I guess I'll never understand your need to label something so you can hate it.
    First was the admission of discrimination. I'm sure it isn't indicative only of social psychology professors. Ex admitted it as well. And yes, I hate the liberal bias in academia. Do you not think narrowmindedness in education is a bad thing? I do.
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    #285

    Mar 23, 2013, 02:30 PM
    Hello Pot:

    Do you not think narrowmindedness in education is a bad thing? I do.
    Meet kettle.

    Excon
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    #286

    Mar 23, 2013, 02:50 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Pot:

    Meet kettle.

    excon
    Like I didn't know that was coming. You make the mistake (publicly) of assuming I'm narrow minded for the fact I defend conservative values. Privately you know better. Don't you, huh?
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    Mar 23, 2013, 02:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I was drawing no conclusions about Yale. Tal and Wondergirl offered misinformation and misdirection about the seminar and I established the facts.



    I leave you to draw conclusions about the seminar. Mine is Yale should have better things to offer its students than a seminar teaching sensitivity toward "taboo and even illegal sex acts."

    Needkarma suggested - sarcastically I'm sure - the seminar may have been hosted by conservatives such as Yale College Republicans or wasn't liberal in nature because Bush attended Yale. I merely offered the op-ed as an example of the bias and hostility that conservatives often face in college. draw your own conclusions about the op-ed, I think it was openly hostile and condescending. If you want definitive proof of the bias conservative students - and educators - face in college that's another discussion.

    Here are my conclusions based on the information provided thus far:

    (a) McDevitt was TEACHING a class inside of the university grounds.

    (b) The McDevitt class has nothing to do with the type of courses offered by the university.

    (c) The McDevitt class is not a reflection on any type of 'preference' that the academic staff might hold.

    (d) The McDevitt class is a symptom of wider liberalisation problems when it comes to education at universities.

    Seems to me that one can conclude that the university is guilty via implication.
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    Mar 23, 2013, 03:05 PM
    When I was in college there were all kinds of seminars, symposiums, lectures, and discussion groups, and we had guest speakers, and lecturers sometimes. It was just part of the college experience. That's the way I take this as well. College was about being exposed to all kinds of different things, and people your mama would never teach you at home.
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    #289

    Mar 23, 2013, 03:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    (a) McDevitt was TEACHING a class inside of the university grounds.
    She was a guest speaker leading a seminar.
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    Mar 23, 2013, 03:09 PM
    Hello again, Steve:

    Privately you know better. Don't you, huh?
    Sure. You're like a Texas Pelosi.

    Excon
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    Mar 23, 2013, 03:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    She was a guest speaker leading a seminar.
    Hi Wondergirl,

    As to whether she was teaching or leading is a moot point. I am claiming that this whole McDevitt thing is a beat-up. What is being promoted here is an ad hominem fallacy by way of guilt through association.

    Tut
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    Mar 23, 2013, 03:40 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    Here are my conclusions based on the information provided thus far:

    (a) McDevitt was TEACHING a class inside of the university grounds.
    So that's established.

    (b) The McDevitt class has nothing to do with the type of courses offered by the university.
    Never said it did.

    (c) The McDevitt class is not a reflection on any type of 'preference' that the academic staff might hold.
    Did anyone say it was?

    (d) The McDevitt class is a symptom of wider liberalisation problems when it comes to education at universities.
    Yes.

    Seems to me that one can conclude that the university is guilty via implication.
    If you say so.
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    #293

    Mar 23, 2013, 03:53 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    So that's established.



    Never said it did.



    Did anyone say it was?



    Yes.



    If you say so.
    Just exhausting the possibilities. Hence, all we have left is a guilt by association.
    Hence, the beat-up.

    Tut
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    #294

    Mar 23, 2013, 04:51 PM
    Hello again,

    Well, I took her class. It was hard.

    excon
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    #295

    Mar 23, 2013, 08:09 PM
    Yeah gotcha
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    #296

    Mar 24, 2013, 02:12 AM
    The university should tell her to take her seminar to her brothel... oooops I mean clinic.
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    Mar 24, 2013, 03:28 AM
    Meanwhile ,it's safer to eat a burger than a pre-packaged bag of salad .
    Salad is more dangerous than beefburgers, leading food expert warns - Telegraph

    Why ? Because the luddites of the world oppose irradiation.
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    Mar 24, 2013, 03:56 AM
    Tom I think you should be irradiated anythime you want to but I like live food
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    #299

    Mar 24, 2013, 03:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    the university should tell her to take her seminar to her brothel .... oooops I mean clinic.

    Exactly. This sort of stuff should not beheld in any university grounds. In fact I can't think of any venue where it should be held.

    Tut
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    Mar 24, 2013, 04:13 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Tom I think you should be irradiated anythime you want to but I like live food
    Yeah much better to eat foods full of harmful bacteria. Where do you live ? On your own farm where you grow and harvest your own food ? Nope ;you go the grocery store like the rest of us. It's virtually impossible to do enough food inspection to eliminate all the risks (especially with our love affair with organically grown produce). Heat sterilization destroys many of the nutrients you think you are getting in these foods .Irradiation does not ;and it extends the shelf life of the food ;and there is no risk associated with consuming irradiated food .

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