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talaniman · Mar 22, 2013, 10:50 AM

Its no more pointless than you believing the church can stick its nose in the private business of its citizens.

speechlesstx · Mar 22, 2013, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Its no more pointless than you believing the church can stick its nose in the private business of its citizens.

His answer was irrelevant and misdirecting which makes it pointless, almost as pointless this straw man of yours you insist on repeating ad nauseum.

smoothy · Mar 22, 2013, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Its no more pointless than you believing the church can stick its nose in the private business of its citizens.

People attend a church by choice... if they don't agree with its policies they can find a different one...

talaniman · Mar 22, 2013, 11:06 AM

So I shouldn't have to be bothered by the church when I am at work then either.

speechlesstx · Mar 22, 2013, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

So I shouldn't have to be bothered by the church when I am at work then either.

In 36 years the church has never bothered me at work, how have they bothered you?

talaniman · Mar 22, 2013, 11:41 AM

My employers never let a church bother the employees, and that should be the case of any worker no matter who the employee is.

smoothy · Mar 22, 2013, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

So I shouldn't have to be bothered by the church when I am at work then either.

You aren't now... but if you work for the church then they have every right.

talaniman · Mar 22, 2013, 12:34 PM

How about a certified taxpaying nurse in a religious not for profit hospital?

smoothy · Mar 22, 2013, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

How about a certified taxpaying nurse in a religious not for profit hospital?

If it's a religious institution... its subject to that religious institutions guidelines.

The Atheists are free to open their own hospitals if they wish.

speechlesstx · Mar 22, 2013, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

My employers never let a church bother the employees, and that should be the case of any worker no matter who the employee is.

Well that didn't answer the question at all.

How about a certified taxpaying nurse in a religious not for profit hospital?

The hospital is her employer, not necessarily her church. If I've said it once... if she doesn't like the terms of her employment she is free to find employment elsewhere.

paraclete · Mar 22, 2013, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

and the same is true in Australia where Red Julia is just itiching for regulations to control the press.

They are responding to the debacle in Britain by striking first, but there are other issues here, there is a concentration of media ownership with the Murdoch press having a very big stake. Murdoch started in Australia. The legislation they brought forward was ill advised and rushed they know they had to act or loose the opportunity forever, This is a bad government and the debacle of the last few days underlines it. We will see the Little Red Fox off in September

tomder55 · Mar 22, 2013, 01:43 PM

Yup ,I've been following the story . Her ministers are going to do to her what she did to KRudd .

paraclete · Mar 22, 2013, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

yup ,I've been following the story . Her ministers are going to do to her what she did to KRudd .

From your mouth to God's ears

tomder55 · Mar 22, 2013, 02:34 PM

But... but... but... aren't you proud that you finally have a women PM ? I'm liking it . Ministers quitting and KRudd saying he isn't going to bail her out .

"The only way to give our country the good government that we so badly need right now at a difficult time in the life of our nation is to have an election," "We cannot wait till September 14. If the Prime Minister was concerned about the party, if she was concerned about the country, if she was less concerned about herself and her own survival, there would be an election now." Tony Abbott... right on!

paraclete · Mar 22, 2013, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

but ...but ...but ..... aren't you proud that you finally have a women PM ? I'm liking it . Ministers quitting and KRudd saying he aint going to bail her out .

"The only way to give our country the good government that we so badly need right now at a difficult time in the life of our nation is to have an election," "We cannot wait till September 14. If the Prime Minister was concerned about the party, if she was concerned about the country, if she was less concerned about herself and her own survival, there would be an election now." Tony Abbott .... right on !!

Let me answer that in a number of ways

Not this woman
Not a socialist or communist camp follower
Not a liar
Not a conneiving, two faced...

Krudd is his own worst enemy, an egomaniac who alienated his support base and then proved he didn't have the guts to loose a third time and so what we now have is a leaderless chook soon to have its head cut off,

I will be very happy when this experiement is over and we get back to stable Liberal government. We had this nonsense under Whitlam, we had it under Hawke and now we have it under Gillard. It is fed by media, probably Murdoch media. This demonstrates Labor is unfit to lead and they are being progressively thrown out in all states

paraclete · Mar 24, 2013, 01:57 AM

Editorial cartoon

Tuttyd · Mar 24, 2013, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

but ...but ...but ..... aren't you proud that you finally have a women PM ? I'm liking it . Ministers quitting and KRudd saying he aint going to bail her out .

"The only way to give our country the good government that we so badly need right now at a difficult time in the life of our nation is to have an election," "We cannot wait till September 14. If the Prime Minister was concerned about the party, if she was concerned about the country, if she was less concerned about herself and her own survival, there would be an election now." Tony Abbott .... right on !!

Hang on Tom. I understand that you are one of the few people who actually take some interest in Australian politics. I also understand that there is nothing you can possibly learn from us.On that basis I will be controversial just for the fun of it.

Gillard makes Obama look like a centre right politician. So where is the extreme reaction to have a socialist party in power in this country? This is not a quiz question.

tomder55 · Mar 24, 2013, 04:41 AM

Obama isn't that far from her in the positions he'd adopt if he could. Why don't I make an extreme reaction?. She isn't my business . I'm content with poking fun of her naivety.

Tuttyd · Mar 24, 2013, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Obama aint that far from her in the positions he'd adopt if he could. Why don't I make an extreme reaction ?.... She aint my business . I'm content with poking fun of her naivety.

Sorry my fault. The question I wanted to ask you was why don't Australian's react in an extreme way? I am just interested in your opinion given the fact that you are probably the only person who takes any interest in Australian politics.

If you given an opinion I am not going to criticise it. Just interested.

Tut

talaniman · Mar 24, 2013, 05:26 AM

In America, the very word socialism conjures up some very extreme image of fear and loathing held over I believe from the cold war. While our most successful social programs are indeed socialist in nature and intent.

Conservatives are intent on getting rid of or modifying them out of existence and privatizing the whole social safety net.