[excon]

Hello again, smoothy:

Look. I'm NO apologist for Bill Clintoon. YOU, on the other hand, appear to be apologizing for the systematic rape of 1,000's and 1,000's of innocent children..

In my view, to compare the two is OUTRAGEOUS. But, that's just me.

excon

[talaniman]

Geez smoothy because catholics are afraid to challenge the Pope, how does that compare with what repubs did to Clinton? Now when I see the pope in court, then we can compare it. Fact remains though, no matter who is at fault, the catholic church has little credibility when it comes to protecting children, and women.

But they are great at protecting themselves, I will concede that.

[speechlesstx]

Look, if you guys want to distract from the issue at hand and attack the Catholic church why not start a new thread? None of us support child abuse, all of us expect accountability, but it is irrelevant to protecting OUR right to religious freedom.

[talaniman]

I thought it was settled Speech because YOUR rights are for you to decide. I have already decided no church will stand between me and the God that I understand and MY rights to protect me and mine and pursue MY happiness through Good Orderly Direction.

I really don't have a problem with YOU, or the church pursuing YOUR rights, be it on Sunday, or a court date. Just don't expect ME to let YOUR rights interfere in MINE. Then we have a problem.

As the spirit moves you.

[smoothy]

Geez smoothy because catholics are afraid to challenge the Pope, how does that compare with what repubs did to Clinton? Now when I see the pope in court, then we can compare it. Fact remains though, no matter who is at fault, the catholic church has little credibility when it comes to protecting children, and women.

But they are great at protecting themselves, I will concede that.

Let me start by stating I'm not a Catholic (but my wife is)... but the Pope hasn't been charged much less convicted of anything.

And there are plenty of crooks in any slice of the population you might chose to pick... even among the Law Enforcement community.

The Catholics don't have that market cornered by any definition of the word. And in fact I could argue certain other groups are far worse than they are..

[speechlesstx]

I thought it was settled Speech because YOUR rights are for you to decide. I have already decided no church will stand between me and the God that I understand and MY rights to protect me and mine and pursue MY happiness thru Good Orderly Direction.

I really don't have a problem with YOU, or the church pursuing YOUR rights, be it on Sunday, or a court date. Just don't expect ME to let YOUR rights interfere in MINE. Then we have a problem.

As the spirit moves you.

Not sure what any of that has to do with the government violating religious freedom but OK.

[tomder55]

Hello again, tom:

See the movie.

excon

What movie ? Send me a link . I'm sure it treats Catholics as fair as most of the media .

[speechlesstx]

He would be referring to this.

[tomder55]

Father Lawrence Murphy molested deaf boys in Milwaukee in the 1950s,and Pope Benedict is responsible and should go to jail ? I can tell you that when the revelations started to come out ,Pope John Paul II asked Cardinal Ratzinger (now the Pope) to investigate the various reports . If anything this Pope has shed sunshine on the problem. He was not involved in covering it up.

[tomder55]

excon, Bill Clinton should have gotten Jail time for the Perjury conviction he got. And yes he WAS convicted of it.

If any of us had committed perjury.....we would have done time in jail for it. A not insignificant ammount of time in jail.

The Pope has not been accused much less convicted of a single case of child abuse.....unlike a certain former president.

You see ;covering up pedophilia should be the exclusive domain of the MSM... and the Obama DHS .

ABC news knew of allegations involving Senator Menendez on May 2, 2012, and sat on the story.. and DHS covered up their investigation of an illegal alien child abuser that Menendez hired until after the elections.

[speechlesstx]

Right, I believe the words ex used were the Catholic church is "a CRIMINAL organization."

[paraclete]

Right, I believe the words ex used were the Catholic church is "a CRIMINAL organization."

No I think he said it is an organisation used by criminals

[smoothy]

I specifically remember the actual words Criminal organization used... on more than one occasion... but I think that might have been other threads.

[excon]

Hello again,

What significant difference does it make what I called it? It's an organization RIFE with criminals, RIFE with enablers, and RIFE with people who kept it secret...

Now, I don't care WHAT you want to call it, but it should be DISBANDED and PROSECUTED.

excon

[smoothy]

Hello again,

What significant difference does it make what I called it?? It's an organization RIFE with criminals, RIFE with enablers, and RIFE with people who kept it secret...

Now, I don't care WHAT you want to call it, but it should be DISBANDED and PROSECUTED.

excon

I think the same about the Democrat Party... you just described them perfectly.

[excon]

Hello again, smoothy:

I don't know WHY you think child molesters are wonderful people... I don't know WHY you keep defending them.. You HATE Democrats, and you HATE illegal aliens, but you LOVE baby rapers...

I don't understand it. But, I'll NEVER understand right wing thinking.

excon

[smoothy]

Hello again, smoothy:

I dunno WHY you think child molesters are wonderful people... I dunno WHY you keep defending them.. You HATE Democrats, and you HATE illegal aliens, but you LOVE baby rapers...

I don't understand it. But, I'll NEVER understand right wing thinking.

excon

Remember Barney Frank... Know who Menendez is.. (the drive by media is in a near full coverup mode with him right now) .they are part of the democrat party.

[paraclete]

I specifically remember the actual words Criminal organization used....on more than one occasion...but I think that might have been other threads.

Another case of someone being factually incorrect for whatever reason. The Catholic Church has undoubtedly harboured persons who are criminals and have committed criminal acts, this is misguided for whatever reason. For some reason, known only to themselves, the molesting of children doesn't register in their mind as a criminal act and those who have harbour criminals don't see themselves as criminal but by some stupid twist as trying to restore the individual and protect the reputation of the Church without realising it is impossible to do either. When you serve God he will ensure truth

[smoothy]

another case of someone being factually incorrect for whatever reason. The Catholic Church has undoubtedly harboured persons who are criminals and have committed criminal acts, this is misguided for whatever reason. For some reason, known only to themselves, the molesting of children doesn't register in their mind as a criminal act and those who have harbour criminals don't see themselves as criminal but by some stupid twist as trying to restore the individual and protect the reputation of the Church without realising it is impossible to do either. When you serve God he will ensure truth

And right now the Democrat party and their cohorts in the Media are avoiding the very REAL topic of Democrat Senator Menendez and child prostitutes in the Dominican republic...

Robert Menendez Scandal Unfolds - NYTimes.com

And its not the first Democrat caught in sex scandals.

Look deep enough and you are going to find something rotten in every segment of society... even in your own home country.

[paraclete]

Smoothy look deep enough and you are likely to find politicians of any hue caught is sex scandals. The left aren't the only ones with such tendencies, just those stupid enough to get caught