[talaniman]

Paranoia is their fashion statement.

[paraclete]

Yes every man should have one slung like a scotish sporan and women could wear them around their neck, very macho, very chic

[speechlesstx]

No sir, you can't pin that nonsense on the gun lobby. Get real, Clete.

[talaniman]

Its too stupid to pin on anyone but the ones who spread that kind of crap.

[paraclete]

No sir, you can't pin that nonsense on the gun lobby. Get real, Clete.

Honestly speech they don't need me to pin nonsense on them, they are doing that for themselves. Every school must have armed guards, all the teachers trained and carrying guns, get real! All they are interested in is selling more guns

[tomder55]

No one said all the teachers trained and carrying guns. It would be completely voluntary .Armed guards is a very good idea.

[paraclete]

Yes Tom and the federal government can pay for it, right? More pump priming, or do you call that boondogglin over there? Who is going to pay for the psych evaluations? Or does just anyone get a carry permit?

Tom Ideas have to be paid for, good or bad, they have to be paid for, and you know who is going to pay, don't you

[tomder55]

Yes Tom and the federal government can pay for it, right?

No ,that would be up to the local governments. You see ;right now only elite schools like the ones that the Obama kids attend has armed guards.Many inner city schools get regular police patrols. If I was told my school taxes were going to be used to hire armed guards I would consider it money well spent . Even better ;take it out of the budgets of the over-bloated school administrations.

[paraclete]

Tom, niaive view, if they hire armed guards, that means extra tax. Aren't you the fellow who was bleating about Obama raising taxes. People always float ideas that won't cost them money, just someoneelse. Remember OPM. What you are really saying is raise local taxes for armed guards, but Tom, can they raise taxes for more police?

[tomder55]

Tom, niaive view, if they hire armed guards, that means extra tax. Arn't you the fellow who was bleating about Obama raising taxes. people always float ideas that won't cost them money, just someoneelse. remember OPM. What you are really saying is raise local taxes for armed guards, but Tom, can they raise taxes for more police?

Like I said ;school districts here could easily shuffle spending priorities. Many schools already hire guards . It's just a matter of hiring guards who are trained in firearms. There are many retired cops and returning vets that could use a job.
As far as school taxes go... I don't know about the rest of the country ;but here in NY ,property taxes are like paying a 2nd mortgage on the home .Alot of that goes to the school districts . Typically when you break down their budgets ,there is lots of waste .You know that much of that is NOT going into teaching resources that's for sure.
Clete ,I have less of an issue with local taxes so long as they are efficiently administered . All a local gov. needs to show me is a compelling need. My problem with Federal taxes goes deeper because they venture into many areas where they have no constitutional mandate.

[Wondergirl]

like I said ;school districts here could easily shuffle spending priorities. ... Typically when you break down their budgets ,there is lots of waste .You know that much of that is NOT going into teaching resources that's for sure.

And how will that change?

[talaniman]

Let see if I get this straight, you can't raise taxes on anybody, and when teachers are being cut you want them to volunteer and be armed guards for our kids. But you don't want to pay for more cops? About the size of it?

Glad Obama is willing to send funding for more cops to increase security if they think they need it.

White House may consider funding for police in schools after Newtown - Washington Post

[tomder55]

Yeah yeah ;those 100,000 cops the Dems talk about but never produce

[talaniman]

Repubs don't like to fund cops, teachers, and firefighters, or children left behind, or drugs for seniors, let the free market take care of them if they can afford it. Or cut somebody's pay, or better yet, they should volunteer.

Anything but raise taxes on the rich... oops, my bad... job creators like Mitt, or Tom.

[tomder55]

What happened to the 100,000 cops the last time ? What happened to the teachers the stimulus was going to fund? Oh that's right ,the union got the bucks .

[talaniman]

When the money ran out after two years some got canned. What you thought that money would last a decade? Of course you did since you don't believe the stimulus worked any way. While the job creators continue to trickle down jobs like they do the money.

Blame everybody but the capitalist, and their business cycle model of extractionism. That's why Mitt and his boys are a bad investment for the rest of us.

[tomder55]

Anyway ;cops are good for taking a body count and doing the forensics after the massacre. I'm sure Newtown has a perfectly good police force. But they weren't there when needed.

[talaniman]

Man are you behind, there have been many deaths since Newtown, and four are campuses. Watching one now in Houston. At least send more body bags we seem to need more. I know we're broke.

[tomder55]

How could that be ? Lone Star College is a gun free zone .

[tomder55]

It is the policy of this System to prohibit the carrying of firearms, knives and clubs onto any of the System's facilities. The possession of firearms, illegal knives and prohibited knives on System facilities including parking areas and publicly accessed facilities is a violation of criminal law and Board policies. This prohibition includes licensed concealed handguns except as otherwise allowed by state law.

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