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Nov 15, 2012, 11:31 PM
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Squatters rights Illinois
Could a person who calls themselves homeless, and is helped by an apartment renter to stay with them for an unlimited time be called a visitor or a squatter?
This is happening in my apartment complex because according to what our manager says that anyone visiting during a 14 day stay but leaves can start that 14 days all over again.
Many doing just that for the last 5 plus years are still here just because they call themselves visitors. I call them squatters because they don't pay rent or are a lease.
Thank you,
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Pets Expert
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Nov 15, 2012, 11:39 PM
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Bump, because I'm interested in the answer, so much so that I subscribed to the thread.
I have a guess for this question, but it's only a guess.
My guess, if they're living in the residence, not paying rent, then legally evicting them is the only option.
I'm not sure about squatters rights, I was under the impression that squatter's rights no longer exist. Tha'ts were the guessing comes in.
So eager to hear what the legal pros have to say. :)
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Nov 16, 2012, 12:11 AM
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There is no such thing as a "squatter right"
The owner of a property can decide what rules apply. If they wish to allow 14 day visits, and allow it to start over again, that Landlord is within their rights.
Next they are staying with someone, there is no legal requirement they be listed on a lease. Many renters have boyfriends, or girl friends or even rent out a extra apartment to someone with no permission of landlord and for long term.
By keeping it to 14 days and calling them visitors, that allows them to be thrown out without the same rights of a tenant. That is your real two options, they are a vistor or a tenant,
Being on the lease or not on the lease, does not take away the persons rights to eviction, once they are no longer a visitor.
They are living in an apartment where the rent is already being paid by someone, ( the renter) what the renter does with and in their own apartment, is really none of your business ( sorry) but they are allowed to have who ever they want stay with them.
If you don't like the landlords rules, it is easy, MOVE.
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Pets Expert
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Nov 16, 2012, 12:17 AM
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 Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
There is no such thing as a "squatter right"
The owner of a property can decide what rules apply. If they wish to allow 14 day visits, and allow it to start over again, that Landlord is within their rights.
next they are staying with someone, there is no legal requirement they be listed on a lease. Many renters have boyfriends, or girl friends or even rent out a extra apartment to someone with no permission of landlord and for long term.
By keeping it to 14 days and calling them vistors, that allows them to be thrown out without the same rights of a tenant. That is your real two options, they are a vistor or a tenant,
Being on the lease or not on the lease, does not take away the persons rights to eviction, once they are no longer a visitor.
They are living in an apartment where the rent is already being paid by someone, ( the renter) what the renter does with and in their own apartment, is really none of your business ( sorry) but they are allowed to have who ever they want stay with them.
if you don't like the landlords rules, it is easy, MOVE.
Are you saying that I guessed right? ;)
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Expert
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Nov 16, 2012, 12:36 AM
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Yep, the renter of one apartment has no rights in trying to tell the owner how he can or con not run his apartment building. As long as the landlord does not violate the lease or rental agreement of the tenant, They may have what policy and procedures they want.
Many rentals have no 14 day rule and if a renter moves someone else in, unless it violates the rental agreement, the person becomes a tenant, just because they live there.
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Computer Expert and Renaissance Man
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Nov 16, 2012, 05:50 AM
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be called a visitor or a squatter?
Neither. The real question here is what you want to do about it. It doesn't matter one bit whether they are called guests, visitors, residents, occupants, or even squatters (which is definitely not valid). The question is what is it that you want done about it? And whether you even have a say.
As I understand it, you are also a tenant in the complex. Not the landlord, owner, manager etc. As such you have limited, if any, say about this. You can't evict, you can't even complain because it is not up to you who a tenant chooses to have live with them.
The ONLY time their status has any bearing is if the landlord wants to remove them. In such a case, I believe a court of law would look at them as residents.
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Nov 16, 2012, 06:50 AM
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 Originally Posted by ScottGem
... As I understand it, you are also a tenant in the complex. Not the landlord, owner, manager etc. As such you have limited, if any, say about this. You can't evict,...
Unless, of course, the people in question are OP's guests. In that case, if they have any rights as tenants, that would be as OP's sub-tenants.
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