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excon · Nov 14, 2012, 09:07 AM

Hello:

We are NOT going to have a Supreme Court that will overturn Roe v. Wade. We are NOT going to repeal health reform. We are NOT going amend the Constitution to prevent gays from marrying. We are NOT going to give tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires. We are NOT going to eliminate the Department of Energy OR the Environmental Protection Agency. We are NOT vetoing the Dream Act. We are NOT going to throw 12 million people out of the country. We are NOT going to end Medicare.

Ain't this a great country, or what?

excon

smoothy · Nov 14, 2012, 09:44 AM

He won with only 52% of the vote.. and even that is in question due to numerous irregularities... such as 59 precincts in Philly that had ZERO Romeny votes... over 100 in Ohio... and also in Illinois and Fl... there is also reports of numerous precincts that had more votes cast than they had elligible adults... and one where the result is alredy being contested whenre the votes counted do not come close to the number of people logged in that voted.

THis election was stolen through massivve vote fraud... which is WHY the Democrats have fought agaist Photo ID being required to vote.. something that is REQUIRED everywhere else in the world. To prevent dead people and Illegals from voting in elections like happened so obviously this time.

Romney getting ZERO votes in so many precincts in so many swing states is a statistical IMPOSSIBILITY.

Not even Saddam Hussain got 100% of the vote... or Fidel Castro.. And we all know HUGO CHavez still didn't even with the wholesale fraud that happened there.

Oliver2011 · Nov 14, 2012, 09:44 AM

Yes but...

We (USA) will be broke...

We will have millions addicted to free handouts, free phones, free everything instead of taking pride in their own achievements.

We will have doctors who averaged C's in medical school because any sensible doctor is going to leave medicine.

We will be more like the other socialist countries of the world who have tried to make socialism work and never have made it work? Remember when France lectured Obama on the economy. How embarrassing for us.

We will have a President who bows to other leaders.

We will have a nuclear Iran.

Honestly, God help the United States of America.

joypulv · Nov 14, 2012, 09:56 AM

The Joy of Democracy. Some bemoan the results of each election, some say we are on a ever-widening track of a nation of people who truly care about each other in all our variety, and some don't care. I'm in the middle group. How much has really changed in 250 years?
Mainly, the argument 'I (am, am not) my brother's keeper' will always be here.

speechlesstx · Nov 14, 2012, 10:42 AM

You aren't going to end Medicare, you're just going to bleed it to death via Obamacare.

excon · Nov 14, 2012, 11:24 AM

Hello again, Steve:

I couldn't agree more.. So, we should move forthwith to single payer. Think of the BILLIONS we'd save. What? Romney is WRONG about how much the Israeli's save? If we did HALF that, we could fund Medicare FOREVER, and we'll have some left over for an air craft carrier or two.

Other than being ideologically opposed to it, what do you think about the MONEY we'll save?? Isn't the future of your country WORTH it?

excon

paraclete · Nov 14, 2012, 01:37 PM

Do I hear the bleating of sheep on their way to the shearing shed

smoothy · Nov 14, 2012, 02:09 PM

If we did away with Welfare.. Medicaid and food stamps.. think of all the money we would save.

smoothy · Nov 14, 2012, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

do I hear the bleating of sheep on their way to the shearing shed

I think that's the Democrats molesting the sheep in the shearing shed. And the sheep aren't too happy about it.

paraclete · Nov 14, 2012, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

I think thats the Democrats molesting the sheep in the shearing shed. And the sheep aren't too happy about it.

No that's the republicans, they don't want to be dipped

speechlesstx · Nov 14, 2012, 02:22 PM

I couldn't agree more..

That was a quick 180 from "We are NOT going to end Medicare."

paraclete · Nov 14, 2012, 03:24 PM

No it's just business as usual and someone is going to have to get used to it. There will be must posturing, much chest beating, and many will say we did our best, but it was a bridge too far

smoothy · Nov 14, 2012, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

no that's the republicans, they don't want to be dipped

Republicans sit in boardrooms and Corporate Executive offices... they don't mingle with the working man... didn't you get the memo?

paraclete · Nov 14, 2012, 05:15 PM

No, I'm not getting all my memos these days, must be that damned spam filter.

Look I know about Boardrooms and Corporate Executive offices , spent a good part of my life there, that didn't stop me from having common sense and speaking to the workers. If these guys were religious like they say they are, they would work to see the ordinary people get their share

The Republicans got done bigtime, they backed the wrong horse, it happens and if they don't get their head out of you know where, it will happen more frequently. I don't necessarily like to see conservative forces get done but you can be too far to the right, too much sold on this rugged individialist crap

smoothy · Nov 14, 2012, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by paraclete

No, I'm not getting all my memos these days, must be that damned spam filter.

Look I know about Boardrooms and Corporate Executive offices , spent a good part of my life there, that didn't stop me from having common sense and speaking to the workers. If these guys were religious like they say they are, they would work to see the ordinary people get their share

The Republicans got done bigtime, they backed the wrong horse, it happens and if they don't get their head out of you know where, it will happen more frequently. I don't necessarily like to see conservative forces get done but you can be too far to the right, too much sold on this rugged individialist crap

Obama only got 52% of the popular vote... thats no mandate. and it's a very slim win... and there are LOTS of indications of massive vote fraud across the country. Because people didn't have to prove most places they were legally eligible to actually vote.

TUT317 · Nov 15, 2012, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Obama only got 52% of the popular vote.....thats no mandate., and its a very slim win...and there are LOTS of indications of massive vote fraud across the country. Because people didn't have to prove most places they were legally eligible to actually vote.

Rather than complain about it on just about every post in this forum why don't you do something about getting a Federal electoral system that works?

Tut

tomder55 · Nov 15, 2012, 03:45 AM

It is clear from his presser yesterday that the Prez is over-reading his win as some sort of massive mandate . GW Bush got smacked down in 2005 when he claimed he had 'political currency to spend'. The result was a stalled agenda even with a majority in both houses ,and a mid-term thumping . I predict the same in 2014 .

paraclete · Nov 15, 2012, 05:51 AM

You just don't get it, this is not good government. It doesn't matter what margin you win by, if you win, you win. There is some sort of falacy that the electorate could elect a President and not give him control of the house. Your electoral college should actually be your two houses voting together and before you say it, I understand what the outcome might have been, you are the victims of a eighteenth century time warp

tomder55 · Nov 15, 2012, 05:57 AM

There is some sort of falacy that the electorate could elect a President and not give him control of the house.

The founders gave us divided government for a reason . They were fearful that the central government would grow into the powerful leviathan it has become. If the electorate wanted to give the power to act without the checks they would've voted in a Democrat Congress too.

paraclete · Nov 15, 2012, 05:58 AM

Go on living in fear Tom