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    #101

    Nov 9, 2012, 10:54 AM
    Again, just attack.

    Hey, a neo-con talking about empathy... that's funny
    a) I'm not a neo-con and b) I'm the only one that's been talking about personally sacrificing to help others so don't point you snide crap in this direction. You can join me in sacrificing for others or you can shut the hell up about it in my opinion.
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    #102

    Nov 9, 2012, 11:00 AM
    I volunteer my a$$ off but I don't brag about it. I didn't get the point in your link since it was all over the map.

    And yea, you're textbook neo-con: Neoconservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    #103

    Nov 9, 2012, 11:06 AM
    There is no bragging in there, you just can't help but make all your BS personal. Grow up.
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    #104

    Nov 9, 2012, 11:34 AM
    Like when you said "not a drop of empathy"?
    Such thin skin... Toughen up!
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    #105

    Nov 9, 2012, 01:22 PM
    It's not thin skin, dude, you're just annoying.
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    #106

    Nov 9, 2012, 01:41 PM
    Grow a pair. This isn't elementary school.
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    #107

    Nov 9, 2012, 02:20 PM
    I'm not the one acting childish.
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    #108

    Nov 9, 2012, 02:48 PM
    Grow up the pair of you
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    #109

    Nov 9, 2012, 04:28 PM
    What do you have against a growing natural gas industry, and more jobs that don't call for black lung, or living underground for most of your life?
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    #110

    Nov 9, 2012, 04:54 PM
    I'm all for natural gas. I'm not the whose panties are in a wad over fracking.
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    #111

    Nov 9, 2012, 05:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I'm all for natural gas. I'm not the whose panties are in a wad over fracking.
    We don't keep the oil produced by fracking, right? It goes on the world market.
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    #112

    Nov 9, 2012, 05:12 PM
    It can be done a lot safer, but the process and technology is new relatively, so I expect a learning curve, AND a FEW mistake. No need to be greedy and careless.

    You wouldn't believe the job growth

    Natural gas boom projected to fuel job growth - Houston Chronicle
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    #113

    Nov 9, 2012, 05:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    We don't keep the oil produced by fracking, right? It goes on the world market.
    How do you produce oil by fracking? Fracking is a method of extracting gas from coal
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    #114

    Nov 9, 2012, 06:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    How do you produce oil by fracking? fracking is a method of extracting gas from coal
    Technically is call hydraulic Fracturing... Fracking is a nickname of it.

    They have means of fracturing (no I am not that familiar with the process) the rock to allow more exit paths than just the natural existing fractures allowing more of the oil (or natural gas) to be extracted.
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    #115

    Nov 9, 2012, 06:26 PM
    The problem with it is that it's often below a drinking water table and, if done incorrectly, can spoil that drinking water supply.
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    #116

    Nov 9, 2012, 07:05 PM
    I just think it's funny that since Obama's reelection you've discovered natural has a great future. Meanwhile, no job doesn't put food in the laid off coal workers children's belly.

    Oh but wait, you'll just put that burden on our kids instead of letting people who want to work now take care of their own family. But who cares if children starve as long as your conscience is soothed?
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    #117

    Nov 9, 2012, 07:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I just think it's funny that since Obama's reelection you've discovered natural has a great future. Meanwhile, no job doesn't put food in the laid off coal workers children's belly.

    Oh but wait, you'll just put that burden on our kids instead of letting people who want to work now take care of their own family. But who cares if children starve as long as your conscience is soothed?
    I think it is a great failure of your society that you haven't heard of retraining. When an industry goes, it goes. The workers have to be given an alternative, a pratical alternative, employment in their region
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    #118

    Nov 10, 2012, 05:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    How do you produce oil by fracking? fracking is a method of extracting gas from coal
    No it is not coal gassification . That is a different process. This is extraction gas and oil from areas that were not accessible in the past by fracturing the shale layer above the reserve.
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    #119

    Nov 10, 2012, 05:52 AM
    I think it is a great failure of your society that you haven't heard of retraining. When an industry goes, it goes. The workers have to be given an alternative, a pratical alternative, employment in their region
    And I think it's a great failing of your society that you haven't learned any manners toward your allies.
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    #120

    Nov 10, 2012, 07:10 AM
    Everyone is talking about gas, what sort of gas is that, hot air?
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