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NeedKarma · Nov 9, 2012, 06:24 AM

This is true, no one ever does take responsibility.

excon · Nov 9, 2012, 06:25 AM

Hello again, tom:

I have no responsibility in 'whipping up hysteria'

Really?? Didn't I hear you agree with Congressman Issa, when he said that Fast & Furious was a PLOY, so that Obama could round up all the guns during his second term??

Nahhh... That must have been the other Tom.

Excon

tomder55 · Nov 9, 2012, 06:37 AM

No I never said the President's goal was to round up guns. However ,the President does want stricter FEDERAL laws regarding guns and certain types of guns... and yes I agree with Issa that F&F was part of the strategery of making his and Evita's case that the gun violence in Mexico is being supported by US gun exports.
The fact that he supports UN treaties that would also limit American's rights to guns is more than enough proof that is his goal .

J_9 · Nov 9, 2012, 06:44 AM

It's called bankruptcy NK. They sunk 401K's into the business, CDs, and liquidated assets.

It was 2.5 mil to purchase the existing 1000 square foot gun shop from the previous owner. Another 2 mil to update it from a 1970s era sup to a modern era shop. Then we expanded to the tune of a
22000 square foot shop complete with a state of the art 6 lane gun range. Building and stocking that was not cheap. Our store, Brighton Arms, was in existence for 12 years before we were forced to close. Oh and life is expensive as well. My in-laws have an adult son who is physically and mentally handicapped and had been turned down hy government agencies for medical assistance.

Do you want a full financial statement NK?

speechlesstx · Nov 9, 2012, 07:15 AM

It IS true, that when I walk out of my house every morning, I see an entirely different country than you do.

No argument there, but you saw an imperial presidency under Bush but Obama has been far worse in bypassing congress and the people. Open your eyes.

J_9 · Nov 9, 2012, 07:21 AM

Oh, and Steve, you're my friend too and I take no offense to you. If I did I'd call you and give you a piece of my mind. I respect educated discussions until they are dumbed down hy name calling and degridation of others beliefs. We have a member here that's very good at that.

talaniman · Nov 9, 2012, 07:23 AM

FactCheck.org : NRA Targets Obama

Obama Will 'Evaluate' Bill Limiting Online Ammunition Sales, White House Says

Ammunition Shortage Feared by Gun Owners in Obama Presidency - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

He also said in the debate, "I think we can provide common-sense approaches to the issue of illegal guns that are ending up on the streets. We can make sure that criminals don't have guns in their hands. We can make certain that those who are mentally deranged are not getting a hold of handguns. We can trace guns that have been used in crimes to unscrupulous gun dealers that may be selling to straw purchasers and dumping them on the streets."

Shoot Bambi, not Gabby.

Government Stockpiles Ammo and Riot Gear: Is Obama Preparing U.S. For Martial Law? | The Dubuque Town Crier

Is this facts, or CRAZY talk?

tomder55 · Nov 9, 2012, 07:51 AM

Is this facts, or CRAZY talk?

That's your evidence ?A blogger when can't even spell conservative right ?

talaniman · Nov 9, 2012, 08:15 AM

LOL, you are sharp today. That's why I threw that one in at the end. Don't get snarky, just asked a question. I have a reason to be snarky since LUCK for the COLTS underperformed last night and Drew Breeze is my opposition QB!!

cdad · Nov 9, 2012, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

LOL, you are sharp today. Thats why I threw that one in at the end. Don't get snarky, just asked a question. I have a reason to be snarky since LUCK for the COLTS underperformed last night and Drew Breeze is my opposition QB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a fact for sure. Homeland security has already placed an order for over 1.2 billion bullets. Yes that's billion with a B.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/160088

What could they be up to ?

cdad · Nov 9, 2012, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Wondergirl

None of that says he is against gun ownership. That's paranoia. The state and local references have to do with licensing just like for operating a motor vehicle or getting married or fishing.

Why do Americans own assault rifles, for instance? Those are made to kill other humans, not made for hunting. That could be one type of weapon that needs further examination as to who owns it and why. Too often it has ended up being used illegally for mass murder.

President Obama had not made any moves against gun ownership when he was first in office, so why did you lose that business?

What is your definition of an assault rifle ? And why is it your business if someone owns one or not?

paraclete · Nov 9, 2012, 02:43 PM

Let's get more to the point, there is no need for the general population to own automatic weapons. Such weapons are designed for warfare

Wondergirl · Nov 9, 2012, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by califdadof3

What is your definition of an assault rifle ? And why is it your business if someone owns one or not?

AR-15, AK-47. An adult male friend of mine has an IQ of 85-90 (professional testing was done), has no sales resistance, has nearly maxed out several credit cards, has a hair-trigger temper, has creepy friends, and has always wanted to own an AK-47. He went to a gun shop after legally obtaining a FOID card, and bought his long-dreamt-of AK-47 plus ammunition for it. I hope I don't read about him in the newspapers some day.

Why is it my business? Because I value my safety and the safety of friends and loved ones. And of society in general.

talaniman · Nov 9, 2012, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by califdadof3

This is a fact for sure. Homeland security has already placed an order for over 1.2 billion bullets. Yes that's billion with a B.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/160088

What could they be up to ?

http://www.guns.com/us-army-departme...tems-7468.html

This may mean ammunition shortages along with the associated price hikes for some of the most common types of ammunition in service. The M855 as well as the HST .40 bullet has proven themselves in the field as effective ammunition. Both of these larger purchases, however, may lead to domestic runs on ammunition.

paraclete · Nov 9, 2012, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

http://www.guns.com/us-army-departme...tems-7468.html

A bullet led recovery, quite a strategy

talaniman · Nov 9, 2012, 04:06 PM

Seems they have had this arrangement since 2000.

"Since 2000, we have delivered more than 11 billion rounds of ammunition in support of our nation's warfighters while modernizing the facility, increasing capacity, improving productivity and efficiency, and doing so in a safe and responsible manner."

cdad · Nov 9, 2012, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by talaniman

Seems they have had this arrangement since 2000.

That was the military. Im glad when they get ammo shipments. What I was referring to was Homeland Security. It is their contract that bothers me.

WHy do they need 1.2 billion rounds? I understand wartime for our troops. But Homeland Security is domestic.

tomder55 · Nov 9, 2012, 05:27 PM

DHS should be dismantled... there is no reason for a super bureaucracy when it's sub agencies have not been dismantled .

paraclete · Nov 9, 2012, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by califdadof3

That was the military. Im glad when they get ammo shipments. What I was reffering to was Homeland Security. It is their contract that bothers me.

WHy do they need 1.2 billion rounds? I understand wartime for our troops. But Homeland Security is domestic.

Could it be they anticipate manning the borders with something more than a steel fence that the "enemy" cuts holes in

talaniman · Nov 9, 2012, 06:00 PM

Ever see what drug dealers are armed with?