[excon]

Hello again, tom:

If you look carefully, it's the SOUTH that's STUPID.. You live in NY, don't you?

excon

[NeedKarma]

where does it show that on that smear chart

How is it a "smear chart"? It's statistics not opinion.

[talaniman]

Conservatives are far from stupid, they lack a basic understanding of others who are not conservatives and blame the death of their idea of traditional America on everyone else. They don't adapt, they holler! And get mad when NON conservatives holler back.

They cannot believe that many suffered and endured through their traditional idea of America as we move to a more perfect union. Conservatives don't want a more perfect union because traditional is good enough for them and they have no clue why its not good enough for everybody.

That's not a smear, just an observation of why you guys LOST, and will lose AGAIN, unless you get with the program that works for the rest of us too!

[tomder55]

I don't care if we lose 100 elections . I will not submit to what you say works for everyone. Under your plan we will very soon have more people in the cart than pushing it. It cannot be sustained no matter how much personal wealth you confiscate.

[speechlesstx]

I'm a PROPONENT of conservative principles. That includes smaller, smarter government, lower taxes and government OUT of my personal life...

If conservatives did THAT, they'd be on TOP of the world.

But, conservatives went for the okee doak - first from the religious right, and second from conservative entertainment media. Consequently, SOCIAL issues have taken the forefront. And, conservatives LOSE on social issues.

Those conservatives who adhere to the William F. Buckley school of Republicanism, are FAR from stupid. But, the ditto heads, the Hannity fans, the listeners of all the vile right wing radio in this country, are VERY STUPID. Not, only are they STUPID, they're RUINING the Republican party.

I can see we're on track for uniting the country again. OK, so I can say I'm stupid for keeping my job instead of going on the government dole. That pretty much sums up the left's idea of progress, responsible government and most of all fairness. After all, people that work hard, make money, take care of themselves and be successful are obviously what's wrong with America according to Obama's campaign. Dennis Miller is right, why should I work when I can score nearly as much from the government?

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

You've just pointed out some STUPIDITY... I KNOW you believe that we're about "free stuff", as O'Reilly put it. But, that conversation is only going on INSIDE the right wing bubble. You know the bubble I'm talking about... It's the bubble that CONVINCED itself that Romney can't lose, that the polls were rigged, and that Obama is a communist...

You've BEEN lied to. It's a figment of Rush Limprod's imagination, and you bought it. Some day you'll wake up, hopefully.

excon

[talaniman]

I don't care if we lose 100 elections . I will not submit to what you say works for everyone. Under your plan we will very soon have more people in the cart than pushing it. It cannot be sustained no matter how much personal wealth you confiscate.

We haven't tried anything that works for everybody, just the stuff that works for "succesful people" and their business cycle.

Your cart has no motor, and isn't big enough for EVERYBODY, just those YOU deem worthy, tough luck for the rest of us. You holler about a 4% increase in tax rates on 3% of the population, where they were when Clinton and congress balanced the budget and CREATED 20 million jobs. Yet you guys refused to go back to what worked for EVERYBODY.

Wonder why that is?

[tomder55]

I see Greece in our future.

[talaniman]

I can see we're on track for uniting the country again. OK, so I can say I'm stupid for keeping my job instead of going on the government dole. That pretty much sums up the left's idea of progress, responsible government and most of all fairness. After all, people that work hard, make money, take care of themselves and be successful are obviously what's wrong with America according to Obama's campaign. Dennis Miller is right, why should I work when I can score nearly as much from the government?

The country will be united if YOU guys help unite it and stop thinking those on the public dole are having FUN at your expense. That's a dumb way of looking at those who are not a successful as you are.

[talaniman]

I see Greece in our future.

I don't, I see more work to do to live up to the notion of in order to build a more perfect union without screwing everyone along the way!

You know that equality stuff you guys DON'T believe in. We do agree on one thing though, I don't care how many elections you guys lose either. I seem to win when YOU lose, and I hate that it works that way, but better than losing when YOU guys win I suppose.

But look at the bright side, no matter who the president is we both are here to vote in the next election, RIGHT?

[tomder55]

ou holler about a 4% increase in tax rates on 3% of the population, where they were when Clinton and congress balanced the budget and CREATED 20 million jobs. Yet you guys refused to go back to what worked for EVERYBODY.

Here's your 'tax the rich 'bs

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The Treasury just added $24 billion in debt, or enough to fund Greece for over one year, sending the total debt load (now at 103% GDP) ever closer to the debt ceiling of $16.4 trillion.

Boeing, just announced layoffs cutting 30% of management jobs... one of many we will see in the coming days ;layoffs that were deferred until they saw the results of the election.

[talaniman]

No sympathy from me on rich guy tax shelters, or right wing BLOGS. I would think that you favor businesses running lean and mean, at saving to tax payers.

Especially defense companies making tanks and planes we don't need.

[smoothy]

The layoffs are starting.. and not just from big businesses but lots of small ones too... this is what the left wanted after all... I hope MOST of the people that are soon to be laid off are Democrats.

[NeedKarma]

this is what the left wanted after all

Why does the left want this so badly?

[smoothy]

Why does the left want this so badly?

It's the result of Obamacare and what it imposes on employers... Its its ALL on The Democrats because not ONE republican voted for it before it was rammed down out throats without having a proper vote.

Employers aren't in business to lose money... so they are cutting back and in some cases going out of business...

Just wait for the waves of Doctors closing practices... thats coming next. And yes... many doctors I have talked with said that's exactly what they would do... because if will force them to provide services at far less than it costs just to keep the lights on and they can't afford to be working for less than their expenses are much less expenses plus their wages.

[NeedKarma]

You didn't answer the question: what is the benefit to the left to have massive layoffs?

[speechlesstx]

Yesterday when I posted that a guy in Las Vegas laid off 22 people because of Obama's reelection, the response was to attack the guy as clueless. Clueless is voting for the guy who intends to eliminate your industry...

A Utah coal company owned by a vocal critic of President Barack Obama has laid off 102 miners.

The layoffs at the West Ridge Mine are effective immediately, according to UtahAmerican Energy Inc. a subsidiary of Murray Energy Corp. They were announced in a short statement made public Thursday, two days after Obama won re-election.

The layoffs are necessary because of the president's "war on coal," the statement said. The slogan is one used frequently during the election by Murray Energy CEO Robert Murray, who was an ardent supporter of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney.

In its statement, UtahAmerican Energy blames the Obama administration for instituting policies that will close down "204 American coal-fired power plants by 2014" and for drastically reducing the market for coal.

"There is nowhere to sell our coal, and when we can, the market prices are far lower," the statement said. "Without markets, there can be no coal mines and no coal jobs."

But that's OK, I'm sure they'll all get jobs building solar panels.

[NeedKarma]

Nice spin but it's just the market at work:

Coal demand from U.S. power generation companies is down 17 percent this year, according to the federal Energy Information Administration's most recent figures. That's due in large part to low market prices for natural gas, and has the EIA forecasting the lowest coal consumption in at least two decades by the nation's electricity industry.

Trends in power generation have also put coal-fired plants at a higher risk for retirement. In its annual Energy Outlook, the EIA reports that 49 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity will be retired in the next eight years. That represents about one-sixth of the existing coal capacity in the nation and less than 5 percent of total electricity generation in the U.S.

[speechlesstx]

As expected, not a drop of empathy for two rounds of layoffs accompanied by more cover for Obama.

[NeedKarma]

If you read the comments from people in the area they mentioned that his lapses in safety measures caused employee deaths recently, also there has been a trend to lay off headcount in the winter and re-hire then in the spring.

Hey, a neo-con talking about empathy... that's funny.